Has Matt 24:14 been fulfilled?

by Gratitude 15 Replies latest jw friends

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  NotaNess

  The Trinity is a concept based on certain writings and pointers in scripture. Is it possible that God didn't really want us to know what he was doing specifically with our salvation process, so he didn't come right out and state it, but the writers kind of figured it out or rather had faith that God was all 3 working together for the salvation of his humans that keep messing up? Doesn't mean they would come right out and write it as well in depth. I find it difficult to see that some people don't think God had the power to do this, or that he would'nt do this. Surely he could come out and say, "Hey look at me, I'm God in the Flesh, Now I'll die for you so you can obey me and be free from the result of sin". People would'nt get it. There had to be a showing of sacrifice so that man could understand what was done for their salvation. God had to put into play something symbolic of this and it was a Son.

  No matter when the "Trinity" was introduced into Christianity as a real thought, I feel man has uncovered who God is and was in scripture and we have acknowledged it by putting faith in Christ, the "Face of God".

  God could also have just said, no one is saved unless you believe in me, and come to me only. But he did right, in the old testament, with a back up plan called the messiah.

  That wasn't working though either right? He had to go and make a part of himself a fleshly man, in order to wake the stupid humans up, kind of like "Hello...McFly" with a knock on the forehead.

  It's not hard for me to believe and have faith in it. I'm just glad I don't have to be under the mind control aspects of the WTS, and am free to put faith in the scripture on my own...."and the Word was God....Christ created ALL things.........There are no Gods before OR after me".

  And as
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  NotaNess

  Whuh happened? didn't mean that doubling? Maybe God wanted to repeat it??!!
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  mimimimi

  "Has anyone else heard (or have I been playing ostrich) that the door to door work is no longer necessary???? The follow up to that was it's not true. But, it was part of a talk at a 1 day assembly. In my days, mid 70-mid 90, the talks given at assemblies were gone over with a fine toothed comb and their were those given the charge of following the talk. Have things changed that much? How can witnessing publically ever be fulfilled??? I do it everyday in my actions in open and more spiritual actions than I ever demonstrated as a JW."

  If you look at that link to the 9/1/95 Watchtower and read the entire excerpt, you will find that they are not saying the work is no longer necessary. In that same paragraph 17, it ends with "Matthew 24:14 continues to be fulfilled in a large way." (Underlining is mine.) The next two paragraphs go on to talk about the importance of the preaching work and paragraph 19 ends with "As we enter the 1996 service year, let us be determined not to slow down. Rather, we will more then ever heed Paul's words to Timothy: 'Preach the word, be at it urgently.' )2 Timothy 4:2) As we do so, we pray with all our hearts that Jehovah will continue to bless our efforts." So, clearly they do not feel the preaching work is over. They should probably have said the prophecy was being fulfilled, not that it has been fulfilled, as that more clearly states what the rest of the article is saying.

  Not to defend or support what they are doing. I agree they have changed the message of salvation and the way it was to be done and all of Arthur's comments are right on. It's too bad the R&F cannot see how the organization has made the preaching work another burden to be tied up and placed on their backs.
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  Cellist

  Welcome to the board, Gratitude.
  
  There were a couple of threads on that talk at the time it happened. I think there's even a recording of the talk itself. (I didn't listen because I have a very slow connection) Maybe some kind person will find and post the links here for you. I personally don't have a clue on how to do it.
  
  Cellist
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  Satanus

  Yes, it has been fulfilled. The catholic church carried the message the world over, over a period of centuries. It has done more preaching/converting than the wt org will ever do.

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  mimimimi

  Yes, you are right, Satanus. And not just the Catholic church, but missionaries of many different Protestant dominations for many years as well. And the message they have carried is more in line with what Jesus commanded than what the JW's preach.