by minimus 71 Replies latest jw friends
I would like to see that shunning be considered a "hate crime" because the WATCHTOWER states a Witness should "hate" not just the disfellowshipping act of sin but the SINNER too!
That's quite a point there Minimus, any legal eagles out there tend to comment on this? What if there was a class action lawsuit from those who left the orginization to the orginization stating that they are an orginization promoting hatred. Would an argument like this hold water in court?
Nobody has the right to continue criminal activity except the government.
Not to hijack the thread...but where in the Constitution does it give the government the right to "continue in criminal activity"? Just because some administrations have abused the Constitution, flaunted their power and abused their position of authority doesn't mean they have the right to do so.
UC, do you know what tongue in cheek means?
What criminal things do JWs do??
Why not read the long post I gave you? Here's the short (with tongue in cheek)-
WTS implants fears (in their members) and warps their history (to misrepresent themselves.)
they withold any aid to former members, even insisting that they are to be shunned.
they mislead the patient with inaccurate statements about what God expects of them as far as
the blood issue goes. They don't allow their members to seek outside information to help them
make informed decisions on blood.
Often, they have been instructed to tell the (abuse) victim that nothing can be done to help them,
and involving outsiders will bring reproach on Jehovah's name.
Also, Min- They misuse tax-free donations to print lies, they loan this tax-free money to
their own people and charge interest (to build their franchises), they violate minimum wage
and social security benefits laws by calling employees volunteers, they discourage members
from seeking real help for medical and psychological problems, they swindle elderly people
out of their lifesavings (which weren't much in most cases), they peddal without permits and
then say it isn't peddaling. I am sure others will add to the list.
Sorry but I think your list doesn't qualify as "criminal".
It may not be criminal, but perhaps it should be.
Sorry but I think your list doesn't qualify as "criminal".
Some of it already does qualify in many countries as CRIMINAL.
Much of it could already be considered CRIMINAL in the US and other countries
if the government were aware of how serious it is.
All of it IMO should be legislated into becoming CRIMINAL.
I only had time to read the question, so I'm sure my answer is probably a re-peat of what others have said. But, just in case it's not, here goes:
Yes. Absolutely. They DO have the right to practice their religion.
HOWEVER, I think it should be mandatory that any group that is actively trying to recruit others into their group, no matter what that group is (religious or not), should have to provide a written TRUTHFUL statement that covers EXACTLY what they believe, and EXACTLY what they expect from people who join their group.
Perhaps, JG. The point is there's a lot of things that are not illegal and punishable that violates a person's self worth and basic rights to enjoy life. I think we need to clarify what makes a religious practice "illegal". Sacrificing babies is unlawful in the name of religion but the courts have ruled that refusing a blood transfusion is not necessarily illegal.
"ALL OF IT"" should be made illegal?? Yes. We need more government in our lives too.
