by undercover 35 Replies latest jw friends
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/143/
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1998/163/
http://www.khouse.org/6640/BP089/
You can find some good discussions about what you are talking about at the pages above. There are also a lot of good links there to Lambert Dolphin's library. He is a retired physicist who has written a lot of physics related "stuff". I really enjoy his material.
I'm very disappointed this thread is not about Quantum Leap.
reality does exist. BUT, the confusing thing is, our reality is not made up of the same stuff that we seem to see. It is 'real' but made up of stuff we do not normally think of as composing reality. Yes, all matter is really just energy and rawest energy has no mass.
That explains better what I was told but I couldn't explain very well in my post. It is confusing...all matter is energy...energy has no mass...so does matter have mass? Does matter exist as we perceive it?
Thanks for the links, ajwnm. I'll check them out.
I agree space and time are "imaginary constructs". Yet are physical reality is only perceived in the context of this imaginary space and time. Take space and time away and are reality goes away. How can you explain to the layman how our physical reality is "real" yet it is experienced only in the "imaginary constructs" of space and time.
IFWETAKEAWAYTHESPACESBETWEENOURWORDSTHESENSEISSTILLTHEREBUTHARDERTOSEE.
Music only exists in time.
The melody of our consciousness requires space between the notes.
.all matter is energy...energy has no mass...so does matter have mass? Does matter exist as we perceive it?
Energy and Matter are equivalents.
Light energy has no mass.
Or, otherwise put: You can't stab somebody in the heart with a puddle of water unless you freeze it into a sharp icicle first.
p.s. Snow isn't really white.
Trinity Quandary & Quantum Theory my science page
Terry,
IFWETAKEAWAYTHESPACESBETWEENOURWORDSTHESENSEISSTILLTHEREBUTHARDERTOSEE.
Hum! Interesting Terry. But if we remove space, we loose more then a pause in words. We loose the two dimensional letters that make up the words. We have nothing there to read, no experience. The same with our three dimensional world. The dimensions only exist in space which as you say is 'imaginary'. Again, do you agree that these facts raise questions about the nature of our physical reality?
Music only exists in time.
The melody of our consciousness requires space between the notes.
This is good. While, it is clear you are mixing a philosophical meaning of 'space' with the issue of 'imaginary' physical space - I like the metaphor. Life, existence, our living experience is like music. It is to be enjoyed. It does not matter that it has the appearance of solidity and mass while being composed of non-solid energy moving about in our "imaginary constructs" of space and time. It is our experience of it that makes it real. Our perception of it's solidity and permanence is all that is important. It is music if we choose for it to be, or it is irritating noise if that is what we choose it to be. And we can miss the music by obsessing over the nature of the notes. STeve
If you have trouble with the thought that the universe is ultimately arbitrary, then step back a second
and think about it. You have molecules - which are made of atoms - which are made of electrons
and protons - which are made of quarks ( which no one can nakedly detect) At some point, this
progression stops ( at the level of individual quanta) and you say, 'that's it'. To do otherwise would
be like people thinking that the earth rides on the back of a turtle, which is on another turtle.......
and so on infinitely. Whatever reality is, it stops at the level of quanta. At that point, it 'just is'
because there is no further level to investigate.
metatron
Thats really exciting and interesting. There is a movie that will help give you a understanding of quantum physics. Its called, "What the Bleep do we know, down the rabit hole" It goes into how scientist have observed the same molecule in two places at the same time. Which is the basis of their premise for paralle, alternate universes. It stars Marlee Matlin.
Here is a synopsis of the film, I own it and recommend it.
There is a movie that will help give you a understanding of quantum physics. Its called, "What the Bleep do we know, down the rabit hole" It goes into how scientist have observed the same molecule in two places at the same time. Which is the basis of their premise for paralle, alternate universes.
The guy that I was talking to mentioned the molecule in two places at the same time thing. On one level, that's a facinating concept, on another it boggles the mind and I'm just not that scientific minded to even attempt to figure out the implications or the possibilities that lie beyond.
Terry and jst2laws are already beyond me. I understand what they're saying and it is helpful, thank you guys. Their thoughts are well demonstrated and illustrated but I could never formulate the ideas that they have, let alone put them into words that others could understand.
I will check out that movie.
