DEMAND THE RESIGNATION OF THE GOVERNING BODY

by Pistoff 24 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • juni
    juni

    VM said:

    They gave up control of the corporations years ago. Other people are legally running things now.

    Now we all should see very clearly why they did this. I wonder if they call that their "theocratic strategy"?

    They are the UNTOUCHABLES. Just as the Pope - the leader of the RC church.

    I can understand Pistoff why you feel as you do...... I feel individual JWs will have to examine their own moral stand about pedophilia and decide to get out. Most are self-preservationalists. They want that "pie in the sky".

    Juni

  • theinfamousone
    theinfamousone

    i guess my only sincere reply would be; WHY BOTHER?

    they dont give a shit... and theyre happy the way they are... we can make all the demands we want, but while were at it, lets demand that a pair of scissors be a lion.

    the infamous one

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    I believe if the rank and file can hear that a settlement was reached, it will resonate with them.
    They are savvy enough to parse out the fact that NO ONE settles in the millions if they are right, or have nothing to hide.
    They may buy the concept that this current bunch is even apostate, or evil slave.
    After all, would Brother Franz have paid out? Or Nathan Knorr?

    PUBLICITY for the settlement will help, no matter what the outcome. Just hearing that some are calling for the resignation of the body may be enough to rattle cages.

    No talk of changing doctrine, or blood; just ask for their resignation due to the mishandling of the sex abuse scandal. It allows them to salvage some dignity as a fellowship, by pointing the finger at the current leaders.

  • golf2
    golf2

    When it comes to religion, it doesn't work that way. Just keep exposing them.

    Golf

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I don't think it's possible to demand the resignation of the governing body. What happens is they will just throw you out of the organization if you try. That's why no one from within is going to be able to ruin the members of the Governing Body; nor are they going to listen. They are not answerable to the members--they will just disfellowship any who do try to have them removed.

    Better to embarrass them. They have a major problem with pedophiles, and all it would take is enough people to blow the whistle. This is not that easy, since they disfellowship anyone who does, and they have been known to issue court gag orders on people for blowing the whistle. The victims of this, and other, abuse are gagged. And www.silentlambs.org is off limits to the members of the congregation. I don't think the Governing Body is going to listen to an "apostate" and quit.

    Absolutely the only way to remove them is to cut off their funding. People should boycott donations to any of their functions, permanently. Also they should boycott the meetings and service. If this happens, there will be no money for them to operate. And they would talk to the empty Kingdumb Hell or A$$embly Hell. That is discouraging to speakers, who would be less likely to accept future assignments if they are going to keep getting boycotted. Plus, if we all boycott service, no one is going to come in. Without new recruits, the money is going to run out, and they will go belly-up. They can only live so long on their assets, and those will get eaten by the lawsuits that they have pending.

    No, we cannot hope to have the Governing Body impeached. There is no system within the organization for that. But, if everyone boycotts the meetings and donations (and service), the whole organization will collapse. Without money, Kingdumb Hells get foreclosed on. Without money, they cannot hold a$$emblies. They will gripe that they are running a deficit. Then people will say #%@$ it; let them run a deficit. Let them go belly-up. Once that happens, the Tower won't have a leg to stand on, and it will come down. And the Governing Body will be fired without anywhere else to hide behind.

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    I'm with golf2 (metaphorically speaking, lol) - expose. They try to keep their 'mistakes' not only from reaching the public, but from reaching their own members! I've emailed Stephen Bates re the latest scandal, and I think it would be a GREAT idea for all newspapers to receive LOADS of letters about this. I also believe that nothing reaches the UK, and so it would be beneficial to email UK channels and newspapers.

  • truthsetsonefree
    truthsetsonefree
    PUBLICITY for the settlement will help, no matter what the outcome.

    Agreed. But the problem here is that there is ten times more publicity over the sale of their buildings than on the child abuse in the press. And in order for WT publication reading dubs to see anything it must be a headliner or a breaking story. They really don't have the time to read newspapers and watch the news in depth.

    tsof

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    We need to think big on this, and outside the box, if you will forgive the buzz phrase.

    It has not worked in the past, but the publicity over the settlements is the key.

    If we can gradually put over the fact that the leadership has made gross errors, there is a way out of it if they can replace the ones at the top.

    I don't have any hopes that the new ones will be any better, but at least they will know that the actions have been noticed.

  • XJW4EVR
    XJW4EVR
    I believe if the rank and file can hear that a settlement was reached, it will resonate with them.

    Will it? Like the UN membership "resonated" with them, or when the child molestations first began to be publicized? They will simply dismis these settlements as the Society's attempt to clear its name and focus on the "door-to-door" work or, and more commonly view them as lies from apostate opposers. The mind set needs to be broken before facts can sink in.

    They are savvy enough to parse out the fact that NO ONE settles in the millions if they are right, or have nothing to hide.

    See number one.

    They may buy the concept that this current bunch is even apostate, or evil slave. After all, would Brother Franz have paid out? Or Nathan Knorr?

    No, they will always believe that anything negative brought out against the WT$ is of apostate origins. I had a friend that was a faded JW, and he never believed anything that was negative about the WT$, he always attributed it to apostates. Regading Franz or Knorr, most will state that if it was for the furtherence of the preaching work they would have, and than blamed the whole thing on satan.

    PUBLICITY for the settlement will help, no matter what the outcome. Just hearing that some are calling for the resignation of the body may be enough to rattle cages.

    SOME cages, yes, I agree it will. Those that were already doubting will be the first affected, but the faithful R&F simply will not listen to or put any stock in any negative report about the WT$. SImple as that.

    No talk of changing doctrine, or blood; just ask for their resignation due to the mishandling of the sex abuse scandal. It allows them to salvage some dignity as a fellowship, by pointing the finger at the current leaders.

    The R&F believe that these men have personal hotlines to Jehovah. Why would they demand their resignation? I can already hear my father rationalizing this settlement away by saying that the GB must have recieved guidance from the holy spirit, and decided to settle in order to further the preaching work, or some such nonsensical blatherings.

    To think that the R&F are going to rise up against their GB masters is the height of wishful thinking. It didn't happen in the 80s, it didn't happen in the 90s, and it won't happen now. The JWs will eventually peter-out and become an insignificant religious sect like the Christadelphians or The Worldwide Church of God in the first world. The only places that it appears the Dubs are growing is in the developing nations, and in the Spanish speaking immigrant population of the U.S.

    It's a nice thought, but in reality I seriously doubt that anything like that would ever happen.

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    All of you please keep talking about HOW it can be pushed into the consciousness of the rank and file.

    We are all here because something pushed us over the edge, whether incrementally or all at once.

    HOW can we push this into the mainstream??

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