I Feel so alone (page 2)

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Hi Aussie,

Sorry to hear about your pain. It is unlikely that a die hard JW is ever going to be a good person to be married to, so it is probably worth thinking of breaking it off. Even if you were to convince him the WTS teaches untruths and he left he will have huge baggage at loosing family etc.

That said, you may as well try a few questions to see if you can get through to him. You need to take is slow and unemotional, maybe asking just one question a day. I find that an effective way to get through to JWs is to show that the Watchtower has made significant changes to doctrine, and then hide the truth about what they used to say.

Ask him why he feels he is so lucky to have been born into the one tiny religion that is going to be saved. Then mention that the Mormons think only they are the truth, how would he feel about a raised Mormon that believed they were the truth who would not research the history of their religion.

Once you have set the stage, then ask him some historical questions. Read him a quote such as Awake! 1973 January 22 p.8 “… Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance , as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things.” Then ask him if he knows what the Watchtower really said was going to happen in 1914 prior to that date, and if anything stated came true. There are a lot of quotes at http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/1914dates.htm He is not going to trust anything from an "apostate" site so ask him to find the original publications and look it up himself. If he is prepared to preach to convert others, and wants to convert you the least he should do is know the truth about his religion.

Other interesting issues are blood transfusions. For 50 years they said that blood was ok. Then for 50 years they said nothing in blood can be used, no fractions. Now they say that blood fractions are ok. Who's fault is it that JWs died not having a blood fraction in the 70's when now they are allowed to have them. The same is true about organ transplants.

Another point to raise on a separate day is the word Jehovah. Does he know that YHWH never appeared in the New Testament and the Watchtower dishonestly includes it?

Hope that helps a bit.

There are lots of questions and quotes at jwfacts.com.

passive suicide

Word. I like that comment.

aussie

thanx for your replies it does make me feel better and not so alone.

my parents and friends all so the same thing your beautiful and you will find someone else, but it is not easy to take that in when your inlove.

things have slowly started to change sometimes over the last 4 months depending where we are and if he has just been to a meeting or study or something. he is fine on the weekends as he is still going out and getting drunk but come the week he is different. he moved out of my house and back home and also when i ask him to say at mine he doesnt really want to and then he tells me to come stay at his, we can not sleep in the same bed there.

he has only started within 6months pushing it onto me but before then everything was sweet. its just so hard but i know i will never be a witness not after what i know, i just hope our love will be enough to make him realise that im a good thing, cause if he does lose me well he would have just lost the best thing that ever happend to me and he will have to live with that for the rest of his life.

thanx again for your replies,

PopeOfEruke

Dear aussie,

take a tip from one who knows as I grew up in a "divided" household, Mum was a JW and Father not:

Run for the hills!!!!!

Seriously. Life is too short to have the WT Society blow it on you. Even if you can survive with the guy and his attachment to the sect, your kids lives will be hell. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. Please run away from this guy.

Pope

nvrgnbk

Unconditional love is where it's at.

Most Witnesses don't know the meaning of the word.

You deserve to be happy.

You'll figure it out.

Guest with Questions

Welcome Aussie,

Sorry that you feel so down and alone. The above posters know what they are talking about. Some may be bitter but I think they have plenty of reasons, especially if they aren't allowed to communicate with their family members simply because they have chosen a different path.

I have never been one but my parents became witnesses a few years before the 1975 fiasco; that the world was going to end that year. I did question this organization to see if they really were the truth and from all the info I have gathered in the last 10 years or so I have found out they are very far from the truth.

I think it would be a big mistake to pursue this relationship if your boyfriend is intent on going back to this org. He does have the right to choose that path. I think your heartache would be much much greater if you were to stay with him under the circumstances, especially if children were involved.

I think Jgnat is married to a witness. Maybe she could give you advice if you still want to pursue this relationship.

Anyone who has fallen in love can relate and empathize with your dilemma. It's very painful. Hope all goes well for you.

aSphereisnotaCircle

he moved out of my house and back home and also when i ask him to say at mine he doesnt really want to and then he tells me to come stay at his, we can not sleep in the same bed there.

Sounds like he is feeling guilty about the sex and is trying to stop. Has your relationship been good in the past? Of the two years that you have been together, how much of that time were you happy with the relationship?

I ask this because us women tend to see the "potential" in men, and think that we can fix things. But you really need to look at the relationship for what it is, and how it has been in the past. Not what we think the potential is. If he's willing to give up sex, he must be pretty serious about going back. That means you must stop having sex, until you are married, which has caused countless couples to race into marraige as fast as their hormones can take them. Do you want that?

aussie

thats what is so hard about all of the since is that we have a great relationship we get along really well, he gets along with all my family and even spent the last two xmas together and even celebrated his bday and mine. if we didnt have such a good relationship then i would have ended it all ready. but he makes me happy as i do to him. i also get alon well with his family to.

R.F.

My thoughts are the same as many of the above posters. It can be a huge risk to take a chance on him if he's having mixed feelings. One thing I can see potentially happening is that he may view you as a hindrance to his progress and drop you, especially if he hears alot of talk about this from other JWs.

Honesty

The Watchtower Society and the Jehovah's Witnesses will turn your boyfriend into a stranger.

Your best bet is to cut your ties with him now before you spend years being miserable just because he is going to miserable as he serves men instead of God.

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