We all feel the pain of the WT, now what will we do about it?

by dawg 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • dawg
    dawg

    I just wanted to make one simple statement... I've heard many say that they can't get out of this bull, they just faded so they wouldn't have to deal with all the issues that are sure to arise if they use confrontation. Many have said they can't stand to lose family members and the like and that's why they've chasen to fade rather then speak out.

    Here's what I've lost becasue I've chosen to tell the truth about the bastards. My Father, My mother, my two sisters, my two neices, my two nephews.... When I chose to speak out i lost all of them and I regret it not. Here's why, doing the right thing is sometimes painful yet completely necessary. Doctor King lost it all yet he changed the world, so did Gandi. Doing nothing keeps everything status quo, showing the world you're right by your actions, deeds and by presenting the facts, it may cost you now, but you do it to make a change for the future.

    Just like braveheart (yea, I know that's fiction). We have the enemy on the field now, they're weak-believe me, they're weak. Yea, you may go to your grave one day living the lie you've lived so your family can associate with yuo, but wouldn't it be better to go to your grave knowing you helped destroy the evil that is the WT so those in the future can be free to live happy lives? I relish in the fact that even though i may not see the end of this war, I will weaken this god damn foolish and evil slave that has captured the minds of the weak and made a destruction of my immeadate family. I swear, as the living god is my witness that I'm going to walk righ up to the elder that played a role in my disfellowshippment, and spit right in that man's face. You watch! He was always below me both intellectually and physically and he has the gall to treat me as an inferior, to play a role in destroying the love I had at one tijme in my family. THe GB and the whole witnesses organization isn't worth what comes out of my backside, I will never allow excrement to run my life nor make me feel empty. They will be intellectually destroyed... they must go down metaphorcally.

    So the next time I hear that someone has too much to lose to confront the evil that we are facing, then remember that we all have lots to lose by this action. In wars, many lose things they love, but evil alwyas wisn when good people do nothing. I live for the spiritual death of this evil slave and yearn for my family's freedom!

  • Miss 8572
    Miss 8572

    I'm really sorry to hear that you lost your family. I think it's the saddest thing when that happens because nothing should be more important than family. I honestly hope one day your family comes to realize that. I am quite the little protester, just like yourself, so I SOOOOO know where you ar comming from! Haha... I can't help but comment that spitting in these peoples faces is probably not going to be the most productive. Lol. This is not so much directed at you but rather all the members of the JWD community and something I've been pondering for a while... The WBTS expects hatred, anger and flippancy from apostates. I think that it's really great that there are people out there (like you and me) that really want to see that something is done. However, there are some who can be so engulfed by their rage and concerned with revenge that they miss the whole point. I see it on this board sometimes. [Just a thought: Maybe we should limit people to one rant per week. Haha. Of course I'm just kidding. Nobody start a backlash... I'm defintely a purveyor of FREEDOM OF SPEECH!] But... this discussion board, and consequently our fight, is not about a petty personal vendetta against elders in our respective congregation or the WBTS in general. It's about standing up for those who's rights and freedoms are being violated. In my mind: Positivity is key here. There are certain ways that a cult works and remember when you were in these peoples position? Would you not have acted the same? You can't be angry at a mentally disabled person for not understanding calculus... and you can't be angry at Jehovah's Witnesses. They just don't see it and it's the cult mentality that keeps them blind. We have to be pro-active but not THIER defenition of apostate. Who's with us?

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    You go Dawg!

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Miss 8572:

    I tend to agree that people should not live their lives out for a personal vendetta. I certainly am not. I think it is healthy to get on with your life and not be obsessed. But, everybody is at a different "place". Some people were deeply scarred by what happened to them in this religion and, unfortunately, have psychological problems because of it. Venting on this board helps them get it out of their system. The problem arises if they do not move on and are just stuck in the same mental rut. I am sure the WT expects anger and hatred from "apostates" (I just love this word) and when they encounter it they say: "....look what happens..." and then laugh their smug laugh because they think they are in god's pocket.

    The main thing this discussion board should accomplish is EXPOSURE of the hidden and real story of the religion to anybody who wants to see it.

    LHG

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Hey Dawg,

    I hope this doesn't make you vomit too much, but I'm gonna go ahead and share it. As this Big Wuss Wannabe Fader (that would be me) was standing there half-way singing the last song at the District Convention my mind drifted to the posters here on JWD and settled on you.

    The Song? Walking in Integrity

    You probably remember the chorus:

    But as for me,
    Determined I shall be,
    To walk eternally,
    In my integrity.

    Let me tell you Dawg, singing that with the dub blinders off was bizarre and disturbing. I couldn't help but think of the gist of your many "Don't take it lying down" threads.

    You're a thorn in my side and Jimminy Cricket on my shoulder. (That's a compliment BTW) Keep on posting and, who knows, some day I might grow a pair and join you. For now, I'm a pre-pubescent 'postate.

    Open Mind

  • bobxkawasaki
    bobxkawasaki

    Dawg is correct and those who truly believe in freedom fight for it without "moving on" or "running off" which to exemplifies cowardice or an uncaring attitude.

    It might work for some to "move on" who don't have family members still endangered by the Watchtower Society but most of us have family and friends still in it and if we don't keep working to get them out then they stay in danger.

    It's wrong to ignore the raping of children by elders and the bleeding to death of children and adults who've been conditioned (brainwashed) to die silently. Enough is enough. Bravo, Dawg.

    Email me at [email protected] if you'd like a little help with activism.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Dawg- Mr. Flipper here. I agree with you. I have lost 2 young adult daughters who just got married, and neither one would let me walk them down the aisle because of my leaving the org. 4 years ago. Went to the weddings and my wife and I were dignified and respectful, so I hope I taught my daughters something, who knows?? But I am informing all my family of the molestation coverup by the org. and have left them all copies of the news releases. My mom actually was sickened by it, wanted to know more, but one daughter said," It's just Jehovah clearing things up, cleaning out the organization. " I agree with you that we have to keep trying to help people see the badness of this cult. Mrs. Flipper and I left about 200 news releases of the molestation abuse in KH car windows, shopping mall parking lots, etc. Gotta do what we gotta do. Keep it up dude, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • Mum
    Mum

    dawg, you're great! I love that in-your-face attitude! I'm more like Open mind. I planned an escape, and ran away like a teenager; fortunately, I had a relative in another state, far away, who was willing to take me in.

    I would not recommend that you spit in that elder's face. I'm sure he deserves that and worse, but you could end up in trouble with the law, and he's not worth it.

    Wasn't Braveheart based on the story of William Wallace? William Wallace is not a fictional character; he was historical. He was executed by the English for his stand.

    It is so sad that you have lost your family. Freedom has its price, but, at the end of the day, we all have to live with ourselves above all.

    You're doing so well. Best wishes in your journey.

    Open mind: I relate so well to what you said about "integrity," what it really is versus what the Watchtower version is. Hang in there. As Ann Frank said, it's all out there waiting for you -- the birds, the flowers and trees, and a good life.

    Regards,

    SandraC

  • done4good
    done4good

    Uh, I flipped the bird to Bethel today coming home from Brooklyn, does that count?

    Seriously though, Dawg is spot on here.

    j

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    To dawg and Open Mind:

    I lived through the turbulent Civil Rights struggle, and I witnessed different styles of protest. Some, like you dawg, had an in-your-face attitude. Others were the quiet, unassuming protesters, but protesters no less. There are different ways of fighting. I take the low road now because my daughter is still in the WTS. However, I put my foot down when it came to her going to college. The same if she ever needs a blood transfusion.

    The WTS is a deceptive organization and is built on sand. I make it a priority to tell all who know me that I have left and have no intention of going back. I live in a small community and most of the people like and respect me a lot. They have all expressed their happiness that I have broken free. One pastor of a Baptist church gave me a great big hug right in front of everybody!!!

    Snowbird

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