Were You Constantly Counseled By Elders & Others?

by minimus 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    No, it wasn't Freddy Franz. It was typically ministerial "servants" that would be either in my book study or always out in service with me. No, I didn't become attracted physically--probably because I wasn't out in service as much as they would have liked for me to be. Especially the latest one, where I just stopped going out altogether.

    If they really wanted to set me up, perhaps Raymond Franz would have been a better choice. No, I wouldn't be physically attracted--but at least he was closer to the actual truth than the other Governing Body members.

  • minimus
    minimus

    If I were with men only, for years, in my work or social life, I still wouldn't be susceptible to wanting a homosexual liason.

    If I worked out in service with the same brother for years in service, I still wouldn't start thinking about him in any way sexually.

    I guess I still don't understand what you're saying, Wiz.

  • blondie
    blondie

    One try and they never tried again. Other elders warned them but they had to prove that they were "men" Mighty Men.

    I was always nice, never raised my voice, just turned from scripture to scripture to counter their personal opionions (part of the WESAYSO Corporation). Then I would point out what they or their family or friends were doing, the same things.

    Now, brothers we don't want to be like the Pharisees and re-write the bible, do we?

    Blondie

  • bluesbreaker59
    bluesbreaker59

    Ok, let me "read between the lines" here for WTWizard...

    Basically, he went into the organization, thinking it would be a nice social club to find a nice looking woman with some morals. For whatever reason, he didn't get one of those. There are many reasons people don't find mates, here's a few reasons off the top of my head:

    1. Social retardation - this one is pretty much unfixable, it applies to computer programming, chess playing, poindexters that like their mama's egg salad sandwiches and still live in her basement. NO SOCIAL SKILLS AT ALL, very few fit this category

    2. Ugly - its even hard to be too ugly anymore, get teeth fixed, different hairstyle, nose job, contacts, whatever, and fix it

    3. Smelly - take a shower, buy cologne

    4. Too Picky - look at yourself in the mirror, what DO YOU deserve?

    5. Fat - if you're funny and dress right, women don't even care

    6. Not putting yourself "out there" - if you constantly stay home and mope, you never find anyone

    I don't get it Wizard, you know how many single sisters there were? I mean I know we have an age difference, but do you know how many sisters, want nothing more than to get married, pioneer full time and raise a tribe of clapping seals? I'm sorry, but I ran with guys too, and we all had girlfriends, and never had any problems talking to ladies or finding girls to talk to us. I'm not saying some elders didn't look at us cross, but we didn't care.

    Sorry, but the society, even though they are thought of as ogres alot around here, do not encourage homosexual behavior, and to my knowledge and experience have never told a brother old enough for marriage to not pursue the opposite sex. Sometimes, when you're not put in the right environment you tend to blame others, guess what, CHANGE YOUR ENVIRONMENT, to help yourself, ultimately, YOU are the only one to help YOU.

  • 38 Years
    38 Years

    Oh yeah. When I was young, Elders would tell me they wanted to look out for me because my father quit and they felt the scripture of the "fatherless boy" could be applied. I would just tell them that it was nice of them . Actually, I could always take care of myself, thank you very much! Most of the time, I would have a good logical comeback they couldn't argue with. If I didn't I would just say okay, then do what I wanted anyway.

  • Poztate
    Poztate
    I was always nice, never raised my voice, just turned from scripture to scripture to counter their personal opionions (part of the WESAYSO Corporation). Then I would point out what they or their family or friends were doing, the same things.

    I would have loved to have been there to hear that. They just aren't used to having the bible used to point out their (many) flaws.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    They counselled me for all kinds of stupid reasons. Then they counselled me for telling them they weren't qualified to counsel me.

    W

  • Wordly Andre
    Wordly Andre

    Not that I have anything at all against gays, but can you imagine the Oprah show My religion turned me gay!! ha ha ha

    my parents cong, announced twice that I was bad association for the youth, before that they were always wanting to talk to me about the way I dress, my music, my worldly friends, my lack of disire to get baptized, or go out in service, study, Answer at kingdumb hall, My most favorite is when they had a meeting about me thinking about a sisters breasts!!! Get out of my mind!!

    guess I never let them control me enough to get them breasts out of my head!

  • minimus
    minimus

    Isn't it interesting that some elders AlWAYS SEEMED to be counseling someone?? Their are certain ones that are the go to guys that always volunteer to "shepherd" or investigate something. Some elders loved being bad asses.

  • free2think
    free2think

    All the time. I was always being told I shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that, little things mostly like your top is too low, you shouldn't listen to that music or watch that program, b/c you have to set an example free2think, blah, blah, blah.

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