A few years ago when I was still going to meetings, but no longer an elder, I was talking to two brothers in my driveway (our house was a 'hangout') and brought up the DateLine program and how the Society had tried to DF some of the JW's that went on the show, before the show aired to discredit them.
One of the brothers 'cautioned' me....
The other brother had just gotten married...so I turned and said to him:
""Brother NewlyMarried, Can you imagine your wife being raped by a brother...or even an elder...and when you go to the brothers about it they tell you that since there is only one witness they can't and won't do anything about it. And when you tell them you are going to the police they tell you that if you go to the police they will DF you since there is no proof other than your wife's word.
So you stop going to meetings as you and your wife are too traumatized and you don't hear from the cong for years...
You then decide to go on DateLine about what happened and suddenly the brothers show up at your door and want to "help" you. You refuse to meet with them and they try to DF you for "causing a division" - before you go on the show.
How would you feel about that Brother NewlyMarried?""
He was visibly upset as I kept making it like it was him and his wife who had been treated this way. His face was red and upset as I would put in details about his wife getting raped and how the brother would be at the KH if they went there and was giving parts and getting sympathy from the other friends for what he was being put through by the accusations they made. He said "I'd kill somebody"
Finally I said to both of them "Now do you know why those JW's went on Dateline? And what do you think of the Society trying to DF them ahead of time?
It was almost the last conversation I had with either of them
So I used this illustration..about the Dateline show...got "cautioned"
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UnConfused
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Nathan Natas
THAT certainly qualifies as a BOLD and "take no prisoners" approach. I'll bet their heads were swimming for days afterewards.
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Gopher
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I see you graduated from the Theocraptic Misery School knowing how to use excellent illustrations!
Your making the point so personal was just too real for the organization man to handle. After all, we learn we must put trust in Jehoober to sort all this out. No confronting of the organization is allowed. We have ways to make you shaddup!
Anybody with a heart would never put an organization ahead of a rape victim. Unless they've been thoroughly blinded.
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bluebell
wow that is a really good illustration, i never thought about the fact that a rape victim would be treated that way too, would that really happen? couldn't you go to the police, they rape test you and then there is evidence so the dubs dont have a leg to stand on if they do the 2 witness rule?
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stillajwexelder
That is an excellent way of phrasing what happened (or illustrating to use WTS Speak)
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flipper
Very good Unconfused!! Great job of bringing the point home to them. Maybe they"ll get it, maybe they won't but you made it known to them that that kind of behavior of denial in the organization is wrong. Hopefully it made them think!.Peace, Mr. Flipper
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Mr. Kim
That was the right thing to do. However, the Rank and File JW bros don't have a clue about learning and making changes. They will still suckle from the Borg's nipples enjoying the "Sweet milk of entrapment" and become more addicted each day!
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I hope what you said stuck with them. One never knows when the bells will finally start to ring for one of them and they recall that conversation.
Jeff
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WOW
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Wordly Andre
I missed that Dateline show, anyone have a video clip of it?