How would your respond? (page 2)

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Can't fault a person for trying to sound nice, he sounds like a person who wants to practice the preaching. Problem is he thinks that they have a fix for all that is broken, and you're not broken.

JWdaughter

It's kind of hard-he is being decent-against the orders of his organization. I think you should acknowledge that, and I think you could mention to him that you miss hanging out and it would be really helpful if he would come by, have a beer and watch a game with you. Or go fishing. Or something. Then you could see what happened. I would do my best not to be confrontational about religion myself, and when he brings it up, I would say, why would there be any question about checking up on a friend? Isn't that what friends do? The part that he couldn't live with himself if he didn't check up on you-why should he HAVE to forgo checking on a friend-its unnatural. And his normal healthy conscience told him the right thing to do. Now, remind him that you still need your friends.

LeslieV

I would thank him for his concern for you, and then tell him that if he ever needs someone to talk to that you are there for him also. Let him know that you are fine.

Leslie

changeling

I like LeslieV's response.

helncon

Sounds to me like he has his own doubts, and is half-wondering, half-hoping that you can confirm them.
You're already D-F'ed, you have nothing else to lose. Why not take him up on his offer, just request to talk to him, not giving a topic ahead of time.
Remember that his full-on apostate shields will be in full force, so start with something easy to agree on - lack of love, when that should be the organization's hallmark; inconsistencies in the blood transfusion / fractions issue; injustices in judicial cases, etc.

Right on the money! Hope all is well Helen

Frequent_Fader_Miles

My response would be:

Help me with what?

Hortensia

I agree with JWdaughter and LeslieV. He's trying to be a decent human being and you could acknowledge that, and say all the things they said better than I can.

geevee

Billzfan, Hi.
These offers to help you are shallow at the best of times. The Elder, as a freind or as an elder has had no formal training in counselling so how can he help you?

Perhaps he is genuine, perhaps he has some doubt of his own that you can exploit, perhaps not.
A "friend" of mine, who is a missionary/possibly a c/o by now wrote to me with an expression of genuine caring and offer to help. Here is the post: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/112622/1.ashx
I agonized over what to do. Yep, he was the only one who had the balls to ask. Perhpas he did care about me...perhaps.

So I linked a couple of my concerns. Let's face it, if he was genuine, he would look at what I am having trouble with and try to understand.
Funny thing, I haven't heard back from him yet!!! Perhaps he hasn't checked his email.
But I did ask him to leave me alone if he didn't want to openly and honestly discuss the situation.

nvrgnbk

I would thank him for his concern for you, and then tell him that if he ever needs someone to talk to that you are there for him also. Let him know that you are fine.

Perfect.

Might even throw in an " I love you man!" for good measure.

He sounds like a good man.

Alot are.

Good luck brother.

Billzfan23

This is what my response to him was:

Thanks for the email man... - It is SOOOO nice to hear from you again. I love you and your wife and have always thought of you both as dear friends. I think back fondly on all of our good days working together at Stream, hanging out together and in theocratic activities. I know you have heard the news that my wife and I are getting divorced. I know that you are aware of the reasons why, and I wanted to tell you that I am quite happy with the way things are.

I appreciate so much your offering to help me - but I am doing fine... unless you got a few extra grand sitting around...haha...The wife's retainer was 5 grand and mine was 2... Her attorney is 250 an hour and min is 195 bucks an hour - could feed a lot of needy people with that cash! Hope you have a great summer man - it is really nice to hear from you. Don't be a stranger - but if you have to be I understand - you gotta do what's right for you. I love you so much - couldn't have asked for a better friend all those years and it makes me so sad to have to have a farewell tone with you now. My best, -Me

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