Do The Math!

by silentlambs 17 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  OUTLAW

  Naeblis,not me dude it`s just that Ive hade to work with abused children,and thier preditor`s make me sick.
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  silentlambs

  My response:

  I appreciate your candid response as many seek to understand this problem and form different opinions as to how to address it. I have studied this carefully and tried to effect changes from within for many months to no avail.

  Let me assure you I have no axe to grind with the Society. If they change policy to protect children the website will go down the next day. Yet when you look into the eyes of a victim and see the pain, or speak to them over the telephone and hear the sadness that was caused by wt policy it is very motivating. For every story that is posted there are five that can't find the courage. Young lives destroyed with little remorse from those who perpetrate this wickedness.

  I am tired, it is hard to lose everyone you have known over trying to stand up for what is right. Yet when you see the look of hope in pained eyes or read a tear stained letter from an appreciative victim for finally being believed or listen to the sobbing voice on your answering machine saying, "I thought I was the only one," it fuels the fire of determination to see this thorough to the end. If Jehovah would bless any effort it would have to be one that protects children.

  It is my hope you will see the truth of this problem, that you will take out a pen and write a letter to the Society and request they stop hurting children. Three things they must do. Three things that have been on the table of the Governing Body since 1992 and yet they continue to refuse to act on behalf of children.

  They are:
  1. If your child is molested go to the police first.
  2. No congregation priveleges ever for a child molesters.
  3. No field service for child molesters.

  I wonder how many children have been hurt by the Governing Body's inaction since 1992? The children's blood is on their hands and I hope God helps them to see this.

  I wish you peace, read my website fully and perhaps you see why it is ethically and morally right to protect children.

  regards,
  bill
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  Scorpion

  Very good response Bill.

  You might of added that you do not label all Jehovah's Witnesses as molesters, only those among Jehovah's Witnesses that are.

  Also, just because there are a few success stories among the WT does not excuse the actions of those who are molesters among the organization.
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  Kent

  Yeah, I have a suggestion. Tell this moron to get an education first, and THEN try to do the math....

  Yakki Da

  Kent

  I need more BOE letters, KMs and other material. Those who can send it to me - please do! The new section will be interesting!!

  Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
  http://watchtower.observer.org
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  joelbear

  Well in math most things come down to equations. So, lets do the math.

  Let x equal the number of children sexually assaulted or raped while associating with Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Let y equal the number of happy successful witnesses.

  How many y's would it take to equal x? 100? 1000? How many happy lives equal a destroyed life?

  I find this a bizarre line of reasoning.
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  TheOldHippie

  1. If your child is molested go to the police first.
  2. No congregation priveleges ever for a child molesters.
  3. No field service for child molesters.
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  These are self-evident points. I can only speak for "my" congregation, and if something of this kind should ever happen here, these things would be done. Reported, removal and also point 3. I think every thinking person would support these points, and I know we in this congregation would.
  In the Western world, upwards of 1 out of 3 children are abused. Hence, I agree wholeheartedly on the point that children are way, way safer in the congregations than outside of them.
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  Amazing

  Hi SL: You may respond to the email person with this:

  "Based on my two surveys taken in late June and early July, the reports and averages strongly suggest that the numbers of victims and pedophiles among the Jehovah's Witnesses is about the same or slightly greater than the rest of society in general. The large numbers are also supported by the mathematical concept of the "Law of Large Numbers", meaning that as you study larger and large populations the results stabilize to a consistent pattern. The 6,000,000 million JWs (appx. 1,000,000 in the USA) already is large enough for the patterns to be stable. And, therefore, my survey cooroborates the expectations consistent with this Law."

  "The problem with pedophiles among Jehovah's Witnesses is not that it problem exist in some greater or similar or lesser proportions. Rather, the problem unique to their organizations is that the leadership at the highest levels has directed, orally and in writing, to their local Elders to conceal these "Pedophiles" according to judicial procedures outside that accepted by society in general, and as a result, has allowed JW men who are Pedophiles to continue in positions of responsibility, good out to the public in their "door to Door" work, and continue the high dangers levels to the JW children and non-JW children."

  "Were their organization to comply with the authorities and normal socially accepted practices, the JW men who are pedophiles whold be surrendered to the authorities, and they would experiences lowered numbers of victims among their members children."

  "The Jehovah's Witnesses are so hung up on their belief in the organizations being at unison with God, they are much like the Taliban who refuse to turn over the criminal Osama bin Laden to the United States authorities because they so strongly believe that Allah is on their side. Of course the Jehovah's Witnesses cannot see this comparison, but the principle is the same. And as a result, their organization and its leaders and Elders will have to face the courts and significant and sustained duration of severe discipline before they eventually realize that they have a serious problem and must comply with "Caesar" on this issue, and recognize that "Caesar" is acting as God's Minister for Justice to bring in Child Molesters. And that this is not intended to besmirch their organization's marketing image, but to act for God to control crime."

  Amazing
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  Francois

  Perhaps you should respond by inviting the letter writer to enroll his children in the North American Man/Boy Love Association. They have a website, so you could even send an address for them and maybe even an application form for NAMBLA.

  Francois