If you ain't a PIONEER, You ain't SH**!!!

by Open mind 56 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    When I was Service Overseer, I tried pioneering for the second time.

    I wanted to die.

    Some of the most dysfunctional people I've ever met in my life.

    Back-stabbing, petty, closed-minded.

    Spiritual paradise.

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    One additional "blessing" of pioneering:

    Their sh*t don't stink!!!

    (Just ask them!!)

    Open Mind

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Even though I was raised in the bOrg, this is what I think of everytime I heard the word pioneer:

  • erandir
    erandir

    I think of this when I hear the word:

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    He made a smart ass remark about me not pioneering and therefore not a good example or good association.

    That's about the point I would've pulled out a big, fat joint, lit up and blew it in his face.

  • Dragonlady76
    Dragonlady76

    Even though I was raised in the bOrg, this is what I think of everytime I heard the word pioneer:

    mrsjones I couln't agree more! They should rename themselves with a name that reflects the true nature of their work, I propose "Full time magazine sellers"

  • free2think
    free2think

    I got told by a missionary, that instead of listening to music while i was out walking i should meditate on pioneering. It wouldn't have been so bad but i had just recently had surgery for a brain tumour and CFS. The weidest part was that his wife also had a similar chronic illness which was the reason they weren't missionaries anymore. Unbelievable.

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    choosing life:

    I was a pioneer for a couple of years and yes they have an elite club

    I think I came to your congo right as you were coming off the list. I was a pioneer at the time too...but I never seemed to fit into the pioneer clique. Took me a year to get reappointed as an elder because I did not fit into their little elder group. Did you notice all that is left of that original group of pioneers in your KH? 3 out of what, 12 pioneers when you were pioneering?: The Service Overseer (who has pioneered for 2 decades) that likes to sell telephone service recruit others to sell phone service recruit. The Service Overseer's wife, who is equally greedy and is just waiting for her uncle to die so she can get the money stashed away in his hellhole of a house (dont get me started on how they wont help him with his physical needs) ; and the older retired sister (who sadly I talked into pioneering again) who is actually the only pioneer who is worth a damn as a human being.

    One elder, who was also a pioneer, bragged about keeping himself and his wife just below the poverty level so they never payed any taxes. Talk about a drain on society.

    That's not the same one as above is it? If it is, he must be paying taxes because I heard he was making $5-6K a month on his MLM scam...OOOOOhhhhh...that must mean he is LYING about making that much money to entice people into joining his MLM scam....YET HE STILL SERVES AS AN ELDER....hmmmmmmmm...lies about his income, avoids paying taxes, involved in a barely legal MLM fraud, involved in something else that he only got a slap on the wrist for.........

    What about the MS and his wife that were pioneering...the ones that moved away a couple years back? He hardly made his time ever because of depression, went to the same return visits which were nothing but 2 hour long social calls (I know this because when he turned his calls over to me when they left...all his calls told me the same, the liked Brother So-and-so, but only listened because of him, they were done now.)..because he really did not witness he "shot the breeze", which they liked..... his wife suffered a lot of health problems because of all the stress being the only breadwinner and regular pioneering....they were living in the basement of the Service Overseer and his wife...mooching.....what a crappy life.

    Glad I dont go to that congo anymore.....come to think of it, kinda glad I hardly go to any KH ANYWHERE anymore.

    SnakesInTheTower (of the "regretted pioneering" Sheep Class)

  • flipper
    flipper

    Open Mind- Mr. Flipper here. yeah, I pioneered for 3 years before I had kids in my early 20's. Having to work, pioneer, and support a non-working pioneer wife was a load! I never fit into the cliques either. Couldn't stand listening to the self righteous attitudes most of them had. Later, in my 30's was in a congregation where this one pioneer sister was an emotional terrorist. Took great delight in humiliating other sisters' efforts and only worked with her fleshly sister in service. Many people didn't have the balls to stand up to her as she thought she was sister elderette, giving out unsolicited advice to whomever she thought needed it. But a really cool elder took her aside when the emotional death toll in sisters' in the congregation had become too much, and he put her in her place with firm counsel. So she started working in service with others. But as time went on, the counsel didn't stick as she had psychotic problems and divorced her great elder husband, nice guy, for reasons unknown (not scriptural reasons though). But I can assure you this much, that's a man counting his blessings. She was a terrorist to him too. Peace out. Mr. Flipper of the glad as hell I'm not a pioneer and worn out class!

  • choosing life
    choosing life

    Snakes,

    Yes the elder pioneer bragged to my husband about being below the poverty level and not paying taxes. So he is lying one way or another. They have been supported all along by the wife's father. She got power of attorney many years ago and helped herself to his money as she saw fit. He is dead now and I can't quite figure out why they havn't bought their dream house yet they talked about. They use his money to fly around the country to attend sales meetings for the sham phone company. Makes it look like they are earning big bucks.

    Don't fool yourself, though, the father left them a lot of money. I remember once how she told me she loved to go to multi level marketing meetings. when I asked why, she said it was the only way a regular person could get wealthy. I thought to myself, that is not what we are supposed to be reaching out for.

    The couple who moved away were mooches, him much more than her. He didn't have so much a depression problem, rather a drinking problem. Witnessed it myself too many times. It was quite a group, for sure.

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