so let me get this straight (page 2)

RollerDave

I think you'll find the 'unity' propaganda you've been fed about Jehovah's people all goose stepping in lockstep past the grand heavenly reviewing stand (sieg heil!) for the Glory of God, and the 'evil slave' apostates who are painted with a broad brush dipped in forbidden blood as being uniformly immoral and fallen to the call of the flesh, or Satan...

Is just that. Propaganda. Black and white thinking. This is one of the hallmarks of cult-think mind control.

Nobody is 100% anything, except Teddy Jaracz, who is 100% dull.

I think Teddy might need another coat of clearcoat, he's starting to grow mold again.

There's varying degrees of belief within the organization, from the most glazed-eyed company man who craps tower-shaped logs to the barely concealed apostate going through the motions until they find out how to get their loved ones to choose the red pill.

There's varying degrees of virtue and decency among the ranks of the so-called evil slave too, from good folks who simply cannot ignore their conscience to some who really DO just wanna carp and bitch all the time.

This is called Nuance, and it is one of the hallmarks of reality.

Welcome to the real world! Once you stop squinting and blinking, it really is a great place to live.

Have some aposta-pie and aposta-cookies.

Roller (of the 'ELO listening' sheep class)

the dreamer dreaming

yes some here still believe JWs have THE TROOF and some that believe it is the worst invention of the debil while many are somewhere in the spectrum between.

I never officially left, was never officially dF'd, but they lied and told people I quit....

that was 17 years ago, never been back since.

today I believe that reality unfolds as it has to

journey-on

Welcome, 4digitcode

You'll get a lot out of this board and hopefully add something to it. Don't take debate and criticism personally as one of the threads talks about today. The more you post, the more people will get to "know" you and you'll enjoy it even more when you've developed that raport. I was raised in the borg (a common term for the organization...see Star Trek The Next Generation), faded gradually over time, been shunned by some (not all) family members for simply walking away from it.

Quandry

WELCOME TO THE FORUM.

I am still technically "in" though I do not attend anymore. I guess I am termed stumbled due to the atrociously humiliating way they treated my teen daughter when they disfellowshipped her. False accusations, etc.

I can relate to the way you felt when you first viewed this site. In my case, I put the words Jehovah's Witnesses and Abuse into the computer, and the flood gates opened. I had no idea...........

ex-nj-jw

Welcome 4digitcode,

I was raised in the cult, when I turned 18 I walked away cold turkey, never looked back and don't regret doing it. I have 2 of 8 siblings still in (6 of us were smart) and my parents are still in. The don't shun me, although sometimes they get on the high horse and we don't speak for awhile. Usually when the CO is in town or they've just been fed more BS at the DC.

Anyway, as everyone else has said, you'll find quite a varity of personalities here, the one thing we all have in common is that we have all been exposed in one way or another to this mind controlling, family destroying, blah, blah, blah cult!!

nj

bob1999

Welcome,

Yes, there are all kinds here on this discussion board.

I've never been a witness but I have family that are.

When you're out it's easy to see all the dumb, un-scriptural things the WTS shoves down the throats of the rank and file.

Hell, they can't even keep their own story straight, but no one seems to notice.

From military service to blood to when heaven was closed to when the END will come to when Christ made His second appearance to..........................................

The list goes on and on and on and on.

I would like to say one thing. Just because the WTS has it all screwed up does not mean that the God of the Bible is not real. Just because the WTS has it all screwed up does not mean that God has not revealed Himself to man through His word, He has. But you don't need anyone to teach you how to read His word. Just a normal person, with an open heart, will understand all that is needed for salvation just by reading the Bible.

There is a WTS quote that I laugh about every time I read it.

It goes something like this. "If a person stops reading the WTS literature and just reads the Bible he will fall back into the old beliefs of Christendom."

You would think that that should tell them something? But NO.

Anyway, I'm glad you're out.

God's love and peace to you.

mdb

4digitcode,

Don't get yourself reinstated, turning back like a dog to it's vomit, but find the true Jesus Christ.
The Watchtower is just a snare and a dead end road. Why should you perish also?

He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.
(Matt 10:37-39)

But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.” (Lk 9:62)

And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.”
Then another of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”
But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.” (Mt 8:20-22)

by the way... hi.

changeling

Welcome! Everyone is welcome here. Just watch out, some of us are warewolves.

changeling

Gordy

There are many many ex-witnessses here and there are many witnesses here too. We have all kinds - from atheists to born agains. It makes for delightful conversation and pleasant company.

This is what makes this forum so good. So many other forums are either dominated by one or the other group. It has been one of the greatest helps to me when I left the JW's, after being one for 30 years.

Mum

Welcome, 4dc.

That RollerDave is so wholesome offering you apostacookies.

Have an apostabeer (assuming you're of legal drinking age) and relax!

Sometimes its a lovefest here, and sometimes it's pretty contentious! But believe me, it's all good.

Regards,

SandraC

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