by slmdf 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
I have found great comfort being among friends here. Thank you for that!!!
Isn't it odd that we have a kind of worldwide brotherhood here? Not a formal, organized one -- but still one where you feel like you share important ideals.
In an odd way, the WTS has created a situation where we former members can find a kinship that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.
I wondered that myself. At the moment there are at least 3 DF'd people who are attending meetings in my hall, one of them being my sister. I wondered if they would ever talk to each other...as there's certainly nothing that says you can't talk to the other person...
The sad part is, every DF'd person is just another person getting the Stockholm Syndrome treatment. DF'd people can be even more brainwashed than typical dubs because they feel like they need to gain the approval of their captors, the Society.
It's a damn good strategy of allowing the outcasts a hard road back inside. If they cut off people permanently, they'd have bigger problems...
I think I remember reading something somewhere that said that df people are not supposed to talk to each other, they are after all, each and everyone bad associates and could harm your already harmed spiritual well being, the borg thinks that it is better for you to be completely alone for a year or more. because then you will never think about screwing up again.. hahahaha (evil laugh)
I was thinking your case with this ex elder he might have been glad to be able to 'speak ' with a fellow df person but in realising that you have no intetion in going back he changed, maybe he thought you have definatly turned you back on the jw and deem you not worthy of talking to as you may turn him againt the jws as well.
Recently i had the courage to speak to a fellow df person near where i used to live i have wanted to speak to this person for a long time and made the excuse to get my sons hair cut (he is a barber) and casually said you dont remember me and he didn't. I told him who i was and we had an 2 hour chat it was great. I now wished i had done it sooner as we may have had a great friendship. I have moved well away from the area but he said to come and say hello when im next in town. I told him about jwd and a few other sites and he was going to havve a look as i had mentioned that it does help with the healing process.
anyway this is just one person but i keep to myself not knowing weather or not talk to them i guess it can't hurt by saying hi.
Helen
Here's my experience:
Before I walked out of Bethel and JWs, my best friends were a family living not far from Bethel. When I went to their home to tell them I was leaving JWs, they already knew. I had left my letter of disassociation at Bethel, and the elders there contacted this family by phone during the 15-minutes between my dropping off the letter and arriving at this family's home. Since they didn't want to speak with me, I told them I would send them a letter stating my reasons for leaving. The envelope came back a few days later with the message on the outside, "We don't accept junk mail at this residence." I give them credit for what I think is a clever response.
Well, a few years later, I saw the wife leaving a store in town where I was about to enter, and she ignored me. I had already told the storekeeper that I'm an x-JW, and she said the woman who just left is also a former JW. She was disfellowshiped for adultery. The storekeeper suggested that I talk with the woman, but I was skeptical due to being obviously snubbed on my way into the store.
A few weeks later, the storekeeper said she spoke with the woman about me, and the woman said she wouldn't dare speak to me. She desperately wanted to be reinstated, and speaking with me would ruin all her chances of ever being accepted back. The woman told her she might survive Armageddon if she got reinstated, but speaking with "an apostate" would mean her everlasting destruction.
This woman was reinstated after being on the outside for about two years. Her husband is remarried, and she's now married to the "worldly" guy she was shacking up with. I'm sure she often expresses gratitude in her prayers that she had the courage to refrain from speaking to one of those evil apostates out there in the old world.
Frank
Anyone who is Dfd and trying to get reinstated is told by the elders not to talk to other Dfd ones. I knew 2 young men who were sharing an apartment and one was trying to come back. The elders told him that he would have to kick the other guy out to get reinstated. He explained the other guy had no where to go and they had a contract they both signed for the apartment.
No excuses accepted was their response. Either kick him out or find your own place. And, oh yes, just buy your way out of the contract. He couldn't afford to do so and decided to just give up on reinstatement. He believed for years that he would be destroyed at Armegeddon.
Good news now, he knows the whole religion is a pack of lies.
"WBT$ staircase of shit"
Outlaw, that should be a band name. :)
fjtoth, it always amazed me how quickly the elders acted on 'sins', but when it came to asking for real help on real issues, a snail could out pace them.
it's so great to continue to hear these experiences, although painful for most of us who had to deal with them, it just reinforces that the society has no concern for the individual, one of the main teachings of christianity, it's all about imposing rules on an organization....and if an individual is damaged by that, so be it.
thanks for reinforcing my faith, not to have faith in this dogma pounded into me for over 25 years.
Shame on those hounders, and the Tower itself, for creating a problem where none needed to exist. If you have two disfellowshipped people, then there should be no reason why they shouldn't associate with each other if they felt like it. And especially if they signed into a contract with a job or apartment that doesn't expire for some time. All that does is creates additional problems where none had to exist, since now people are going to be uncomfortable associating with other disfellowshipped ones.
I wonder if I should apply that rule to the congregation itself. After all, I disfellowshipped them (they claim that missing meetings without ample reason amounted to disfellowshipping the congregation, and I haven't been to one in 2 years). If I could apply that rule to them, there wouldn't be a Christian congregation, since they wouldn't be able to talk to each other. And that blows field service, too.
What do you all think?
What do I think?
I think he's a deluded judgmental a$$hole.
I talked to a recently DF'd friend. He still thinks it's the truth.
Know why?
Know how he tried to convince me?
"Where else will we go?"
LMFAO!
Gotta love a cult, huh, slmdf?
