How The Organization Hooks You With "Privileges"

by minimus 49 Replies latest jw friends

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    gosh, I've had so many privleges it would take a Uhaul to carry them around.....oh...that's why I was so tired and cranky and had no time for a real life or a real relationship or trying to find a nice gal to settle down with.......

    because I was loaded down with all of those wonderful "privleges". Hmmm....all of my privleges can fit in my pocket now.....just checked, nothing but lint there now.

    I think my PO is becoming suspicious. Talked to him today...I blew off the meetings last week completely.....

    Isnt there a song with the lyrics: "should I stay or should I go now?" Decisions decisions....

    SnakesInTheTower (of the "no privleges" Sheep Class)

  • minimus
    minimus

    Just tell him you're depressed and need to be left alone.

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    minimus:

    Just tell him you're depressed and need to be left alone.

    Ironically min, I feel better than I have in years! but...I would use that excuse or work to get them off my back if it starts to get too much pressure.

    I work all the time by choice, paying off bills, etc. (one of those bills is the $3K+ that I spent last year going to the "Special" convention in Germany last year.....don't get me wrong, I enjoyed most of it..but I would never do it again..... (oh yeah, that was another "privilege" that Igot to pay for!) ..next time I go to London and/or Europe it will be on my terms not controlled by the Borg.

    Now that I only make one meeting a week and no privleges I have time to get my finances in order....I will be debt free within the year. (yayyy)

    Snakes ()

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    Minimus, I was told by an elder that if I didn't put in 10 hours a month, the Circuit Overseer wouldn't look at me. I suddenly stopped enjoying the thought of privileges.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Minimus,

    Dare I say again, good thread!

    The crazy thing is that they get intelligent able bodied persons to believe that they are furthering kingdom interests for Jehovah God Himself! They tell you that IF you do everything they say, you will recieve "blessings".

    I think this is one of the most telling features that identifies the WTS as cultic and sociopathic in personality. It has no interest in individuals but has established the social and religious machinery to grind all personalities, regardless of gifts and talents into one grey color, and we all went through the 'mill'. Jehovah's Army has only one size of uniform.

    I recall a very wealthy businessman who started to study the Bible in a congregation close to my own. This man was CEO of noted public domain company and had thousands of persons working for him in his numerous business interests. I liked him a lot because despite, or perhaps due to his success in a tough business world, he was actually a rather shy man, he was also reasonable and very interesting and we quickly learned to drink hard together.

    It was not long before this person was handling microphones and 'helping' in the Literature Room, to the ecstacy of the publishers who cooed with delight at this mans 'humility. He was being taught by Jehovah to be humble. Within a few months he was visited by a pair of the dummest elders in Southern England and told that he was not going to be appointed as an MS just yet, because the elders felt that he was too involved in his secular activities.

    He visited me soon afterward and was very upset, a broken man. I found it hard to believe that this man bastion of a tough business world, could have his self-esteem so quickly removed from him by a person who worked in a resteraunt kitchen and failed to wash regularly, and a window-cleaner.

    From that moment he began to slowly bury the person he was. He began to grin at appropriate congregational moments, was noted on Sunday mornings for his WT perfect answers, and did his share of knocking on doors. Within a few months he was an MS. Despite being an elder at the time, I was always knows as a bit of a non-conformist as a JW and I noticed that he soon began to distance himself from me in favor of the scrim and pole brigade. I said nothing to him, as I had seen this process, from human being to quivering, nervous, theocratic jelly far too often to be offended.

    This is the power of cult.

    Last I heard, he had sold off his business interests and took his family off to some Third World country to 'serve where the need is greater'. No doubt, Jehovah will in his love, allow him to catch some weird disease and die for the sake of Jesus.

    HS

  • Mum
    Mum

    When I read this post, min, I immediately thought of Tom Sawyer and his fence whitewashing ruse.

    As for the carrot, I am reminded of a 12th century princess, Mathilde of France, who told her daughter-in-law, Eleanor of Aquitaine that the way to control the people was to keep the carrot ever before their eyes, but to never, never give them the carrot.

    Regards,

    SandraC

  • minimus
    minimus

    "he was visited by a pair of the dumbest elders in Southern England." Now, Hillary, just thinking about that made me howl! I must say that there are a lot of dumb elders but to think of 2 that are THEE dumbest in the region tickles my funny bone.

    I studied with a renouned heart specialist and he eventually got baptized because he liked his family feeling "protected" because the Witnesses were always at his mansion. He sold his house, moved into a bigger one in a nearby town, eventually got baptized while studying with a different man, a missionary and Bethelite and from what I've heard, he's still in. I KNOW this guy. He's a straight shooter but for the life of me, I can't understand why HE out of all people would stay. I dunno.

  • R.F.
    R.F.

    Great topic minimus!

    I must say that I got caught by the hooks as a Dub. I wanted to reach as high as the JW corporate ladder as I possible could, so I jump through the hoops and did everything I was told to do by the elders. I pioneered, starting commenting tremendously, worked my butt off at public speaking, and so on. There were even things the CO himself had me do, and it seems like out of no where different "priveleges" were flowing in that I hadn't seen come to someone my age in years. At least, someone in my particular area since we're rather lacking in young people enthusiastic about the "truth". I lived for these priveleges and did all I can to prevent from "slipping up" and losing them. Then of course as I left the Borg mentally I couldn't get rid of them fast enough.

  • exwitless
    exwitless

    Great subject, Minimus. And I might add: I was ever more enticed to click on this thread because you actually did not post a question!!! I had to see what that was all about!

  • minimus
    minimus

    Ex, you're funny.

    R.F., when you are trained from infancy to be an aspiring elder, then that's what you do. It comes as second nature. The problem with young elders is that they usually are full of themselves.

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