Why do JW apologists always have to lie???

by drew sagan 21 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    And i'm not talkng about historical referances, bible quotes, and those sorts of things.

    Instead I'm talking about how JW apologists conduct themselves on the internet. They do it all the time. It usually happens like this.

    A JW gets online an see something that challenges their faith or says something negative about it. They decided to hop on and 'defend the truth'. But they usually always do this by pretending to be someone who is not a Jehovah's Witness. They think they can bring in balance by telling you a huge list of positive things that make the WTS sound normal. Of course it is allways totally obvious that it is a JW pretending to be 'of the world'. Check out these comments I found in one online discussion. The first is a comment by a NON-JW and the second is the JW comeback (pretending to not be JW).

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    Subject: Re: Catholic & Orthodox From: neilzero-ga on 07 Nov 2002 15:49 PST

    I long ago had a friend who was the priest of an Orthodox group on Long Island New York. I got the impression that there were thousands of significant differences in doctrine and practices from the Romen Catholic Church. Perhaps they are as different as Jehovah Witnesses are from Baptists. In recent years, variations from one congregation to another of the same denomination have become common place rather than rare in most religions. Sorry I can't think of any good examples, except an Orthodox priest typically has a wife. The Jehovah Witnesses and The Church of Christ have likely done an "independent" (but hostile) study, They are both rather predudiced against all denominations other than their own. Neil

    Subject: Re: Catholic & Orthodox From: pugwashjw-ga on 02 Jul 2003 10:47 PDT

    tO NEILZERO; That is quite a comment on the witnesses. From my experience, All Jehovahs Witnesses worldwide have a faith that does not vary from country to country. Their publications in whatever language you find them, all state the same thoughts and are solidly Bible based. Most religions that claim to follow the teachings of Jesus have many traditions that are not Bible based. Matthew 15;6 says " You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition" and the same thought is found in Mark 7;13 "And thus you make the word of God invalid by your tradition, which you handed down". Yes, Witnesses do stand up for their beliefs, as in the legal fight to allow them to preach door to door. Jesus did it in his day and they are only doing what he did. The Jews of Jesus` day had fifteen hundred years of tradition, waiting for the "Messiah" that was prophesied about. When He [Jesus] did arrive, the religious leaders would not accept him and schemed to have Him ut to death. But many ordinary people did realize who he really was and became the first Christians.

    The next time a JW tries to tell you how morally 'clean' members of the Watchtower are just let him know that you have seen hundreds of JWs lying their little hearts out online in order to 'defend the truth'.

  • sspo
    sspo

    ....and don't forget that at the same time they are counting service time defending the "truth". Why knock on doors when it's hot and humid outside.

  • AWAKE&WATCHING
    AWAKE&WATCHING

    Theocratic warfare.

  • gaiagirl
    gaiagirl

    Observed something similar during 2001-2002 on the About forum for Alternative Religion. A poster who called herself "Irene" began posting various things which were obviously cut-and-pasted from a Watchtower CD. She claimed that they were her own composition based on her "research" (you could SEE the paragraph numbers from the CD in her posts). Some identified her although she refused to admit she was a JW, she admitted to preferring the NWT, and all her beliefs were precisely in line with WTBTS teachings. Eventually, she was asked too many questions which she could not give credible answers to, and gave up.

  • TD
    TD

    Definitely a JW. --Lots of WT and NWT isms

    "That is quite a commenton the witnesses. From my experience, All Jehovahs Witnesses worldwide have a faith that does not vary from country to country. Their publications in whatever language you find them, all state the same thoughts and are solidly Bible based. Most religions that claim to follow the teachings of Jesus have many traditions that are not Bible based. Matthew 15;6 says " You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition" and the same thought is found in Mark 7;13 "And thus you make the word of God invalid by your tradition, which you handed down". Yes, Witnesses do stand up for their beliefs, as in the legal fight to allow them to preach door to door. Jesus did it in his day and they are only doing what he did. The Jews of Jesus` day had fifteen hundred years of tradition, waiting for the "Messiah" that was prophesied about. When He [Jesus] did arrive, the religious leaders would not accept him and schemed to have Him [p]ut to death. But many ordinary people did realize who he really was and became the first Christians."

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Jws love to attack that 'big, fat harlot', the catholic church. They don't realise that, if it weren't for the roman catholic church, christianity wouldn't exist, except perhaps as a finge cult of jesus followers. It was the rc that took it from a small fringe of jewish jesus followers and propagated it across the its empire, starting w europe. Talk about chopping the tree from which your branch grew!

    S

  • changeling
    changeling

    Apologists are most to be pitied. They are only fooling themselves.

    changeling

  • poppers
    poppers

    Well, from reading that comment he certainly comes off as a dub, but nowhere does he expressly say he isn't.

  • moshe
    moshe

    JW's are getting shy when it comes to announcing their faith in public.

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Thats clever... In the same way that Karl Rove is clever....

    Well, for one thing, JW's aren't supposed to be on the internet anyway. Somehow though, they find their way on. Eventually, they will go form supporter to dissident. Somehow, we havg to get them to examine what a drunk fat ass Rutherford was. (oh yeah, and an adulterer...) Not that anyone cares, but JW's still hold Rutherford as one who was used by the good Lord himself. (you would think he could have found people better then that drunken hypocrite of a fornicator)

    Oops, sorry. Rant there.

    Yeah, JW's like to get involved in a snow ball fight by blindfolding themselves first. You should see the pbs.org debate going on over "Knocking". The JW's who post their have all the pedigree and education of Jethro Bodeen. I am not kidding. They are so closed minded.

    But you do have to be patient with them. It is absolute hell to get yourself to admit the truth that you belong to a nutty little cult.

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