Paedo cases in the org and pioneers.......

jambon1

Have you ever sat at a convention or assembly and heard an experience from the platform about how some asswipe pioneer received a bundle of cash for their car repairs, "just in time to keep going in the pioneer service". Or some other form of material advantage, credited to God as the provider.

Now, let's for a wee minute, assume that these were actual blessings from God. He actually took action. He looked at the pioneers situation and arranged things so that they were materially provided for.

Is it just me or is that not God doing something, taking action on behalf of someone for non-spiritual reasons?

You see, when it comes to a brother being decapitated or a witness sister being raped by soldiers or a kid being molested, they will say this;

"Ahh, but god only protects his people in a SPIRITUAL sense".

Well, blow me! These people worship a god that will put £200 or $$$`s through some pioneers letterbox (action required on the part of Jehover). But, he will not save (take action for) a baby/infant/child from a terrifying experience of molestation. Sometimes repeated time after time for years.

See Jehovah. I don't like him.

I think he is a poor excuse for a father figure. I step in to protect my kids for ANYTHING. I take action for them at any given time, no matter what.

Missanna

I use to get angry and blame Jehovah for that same thing but that's Their GOD not what i believe god is like. I understand what you are saying but don't blame God for what the witnesses say they are the ones full of crap.

Hermano

See Jehovah. I don't like him.
I think he is a poor excuse for a father figure.

He doesn't like people that don't kiss his ass. Better watch out, he'll get you.

katiekitten

This kind of reasoning where you assign direct action to god for good things happening (like £200 dropping through your letterbox cos youre a pioneer that needs a tank of petrol), by logical extension makes you blame him when bad things happen.

They cant have it both ways - hes providing when good things happen, but its nothing to do with him when bad things happen.

If they dont want people to blame him when children get sexually abused, they shouldnt bleat on about how he fills pioneers tanks with gas. And, yes I have heard too many pioneers in my own congo (when I went) with these miraculous stories of last minute provision - from money, to a hamper of food to a chip pan (honestly!).

Hermano

This kind of reasoning where you assign direct action to god for good things happening (like £200 dropping through your letterbox cos youre a pioneer that needs a tank of petrol), by logical extension makes you blame him when bad things happen.

Agree 100%. That's how you start getting resentful towards God. You start to wonder how come he's not bailing you out or protecting you from "bad" things. Which is really your own responsability, not God's.

A more mature attitude is to live according to your values regardless of whether you may get disfellowshiped or not, or whether God will bless you or not.

Watkins

but that's Their GOD not what i believe god is like. I understand what you are saying but don't blame God for what the witnesses say they are the ones full of crap.

EXACTLY my point of view. Witnesses do not have truth, so what they dispense is lies and a false representation of God. It's THEIR fault - not His. to Missanna.

Watkins

lfcviking

Well Jambon, If God has such selective favour like you mentioned this leads you to think that he is a poor example of a father or leads you to question his very existence in the first place.

monophonic

jambon1, your post was so good i just saved it to my computer for future reference if/when i ever get in a conversation like this.

Missanna

whether or not you believe in a God you shouldn't blame what stupid cruel people do to one another on him. This world is a horrible place at times but don't make it make you bitter.

gaiagirl

I've heard the similar "double-sided" reasoning from a JW I know. He will speak about an attractive woman by saying something like "Jehovah really knew what he was doing when he made her". I heard him say this once and said "So Jehovah screwed up on woman who are not beautiful in your eyes?" and he mumbled something about "Its not Jehovahs fault if they have bad genes".

Paedo cases in the org and pioneers.......

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