Steve2,
If your aim was to insult or to belittle I'm sorry but you failed to hit the mark.
Deborah
by deborahs_song 42 Replies latest jw friends
Steve2,
If your aim was to insult or to belittle I'm sorry but you failed to hit the mark.
Deborah
Thank you, Denise.
I truly appreciate your advice.
Deborah
In my journeys, it appeared to me that those who believe in Jesus believe in the trinity. The other Jesus is locked up in the Tampa jail. They call him Hay Sues.
Not to be a toatal wise guy, I see you are at the start of your journey, Good luck and may you find something that I have not or could not and hang on to it.
Peace,
Thank you, Jaguarbass.
Peace to you also.
Thanks Eclipse,
Appreciate the non-Trinitarian links.
Deborah
I have no idea if they are non-trinitarian, but I tried really hard to find some.
the exjw sites might be more pertinent to what you are looking for.
You can do your own search using multiple search engines...
and you're welcome
Jeff,
Truth is important! Many adopted children are not satisfied just knowing their adoptive parents they want, or need, to know their birth parents. So also as a Christian, who is my true parent? Jesus was a Jew, he worshipped the God of Abraham. Never did he promote himself as being equal to God. The trinitarian doctrine is not only an insult to the Almighty but it also insults the Son who spent his life glorifing the Father!
I believe in letting Jesus' words speak for themselves.
Deborah
Granted my sister. However, through the ages of time many have found that Jesus' words do not speak in the manner you suggest. I am not arguing here - I remain largely non-T myself, but after the fog of Jwism began to fade, so did the hard core indoctrination that made us believe we could actually know the 'truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth' by a cursory examination of an English translation of Aramaic and Greek texts.
The Anglican, Orthodox, and Catholic theologies, which together constitute a body of Christians hundreds of times larger than Jw's, have maintained that Jesus' words prove just the opposite to what you see in them. I encourage a deep study of the matter. I did not post my questions to you in insult or carelessly. I only hope to influence a wider spectrum of thought for you. That is what happened to me. Rather than become a theologist in my thinking about this single aspect of Christianity, I have accepted that perhaps it would be less consequential to the Almighty than it is to me to understand the nature of Diety. That is all.
Further - without going into detail where it is not requested, the re-translation of the New Testament by the 'Watchtower scholars' into the version known as the New World Translation, and which is the translation that most strongly conveys your opinion about the nature of Diety, has been proven to be fruadulent in it's rendering of texts that support a non-trinitarian theology. Admittedly, both you and I were heavily infleunced by this transliteration. At the start of my journey out of the Watchtower, I too held a strict position that Jesus testified strongly as to his nature and that of the Father. The more I learn, I discover, the less I know.
Jeff
Steve2,
If your aim was to insult or to belittle I'm sorry but you failed to hit the mark.
No insulting or belittling intended so I'm really pleased my comments did not have that effect on you. I speak as one who was raised a JW and who desperately struggled for many years trying to make sense of the "Doctrine" wars between my ardent JW grandparents and practically everoyone else in our local community. What I didn't know about the trinity was probably not worth knowing! But the effect on me? Talk about sleepless nights poring over scriptures and headaches listening to various well-argued views on both sides of the issue.
Part of my way through the quagmire of doctrine was, slowly but surely, to see the inherent sad waste n putting so much time and energy into a subject that has nothing to do with how one lives one's life. My sanity was also rescued by a sense of humour that perhaps more often than not, misses the mark but is preferable to the headache-inducing seriousness of my former need to believe "correct" doctrines.
I hope your journey is not as headache inducing as my earlier journey was for me!
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Eclipse,
I truly appreciate the effort.
Hey, tonight is your night! There's a lunar eclipse tonight.
Deborah