Mr. Flipper's Son Hears and Sees Bigfoot- I'm Serious, Not Joking (page 4)

sweetstuff

Congrats to your son Mr. Flipper, sounds like an amazing experience. Good luck with your upcoming trip! Take poop scoopers and camera's!

Mary

He had seen on the way down to the river and hiking back up the trail back towards his car huge, giant, excrement or in laymans terms, poop, which was bigger than any he had ever seen, not bear or mountain lion poop. I saw pictures of this later, this stuff was the size of a huge Turkey serving platter heaped about two feet wide by a foot deep. It had snails, pine needles, (hope your not eating ), and various other paraphenalia in it and had a tan whitish look to it.

By the description, I'd say it sounds like it probably belonged to either J.R. Brown or Ted Jaracz.

Seriously though, I'm not sure what to make of it. I was watching something on the Discovery channel the other night about the Patterson film and they actually came to the conclusion that it absolutely could have been someone in an ape suit, although opinions on this are divided. My own opinion is that the Patterson film is a hoax.

I've never seen Bigfoot or anything, but I know a few years ago in either Washington State or southern B.C., 'something' ran across a four lane highway that several eye witnesses said fit the description of Bigfoot, and the calls started right away to the police station. There could definitely be some undiscovered animal living there in the mountains/forest........the fact that the Native Indians have seen something consistently the same for centuries gives it some credibility. We won't know until someone produces a body.

I agree with what Nathan said though-----if your son can get a sample of that poop, it might shed some light on the subject......You're son's a brave person......there's no damn way I'd be going into the mountains by myself with a possible unknown species there.

flipper

SWEET STUFF- Thanks. We will definitely take pooper scoopers and night vision cameras. Will let you and everybody know what happens!

MARY- I'll remember to look for J.R.Brown and teddy boy when we are up there. Gawd knows with all the stress from the child molestation crises, they are probably hiding out in the mountains about now! Yes, I agree with the native americans seeing these animals for years, something must be out there. Interesting about the Washington sighting, I've read a lot of BFRO reports (Bigfoot reporting organization), and there have been similar sightings by people driving home late at night in the Northern Sierras in our neck of the woods. So , we'll see what happens, we are going to look for the beast late September to early October. Peace out to you guys, Mr. Flipper

Kudra

Ha I just remembered a story a friend of mine told me-

When he was in Georgia, he and his friends used to put on a ghillie suit and go and jump out at car on the roads out there.

He is pretty tall and I think could have spurred a bigfoot rumor or two...

-K

flipper

KUDRA- That is frigging hilarious! I'm sure there are lots of stories like that! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

Abaddon

Well, up to now the lack of incontravertible hard evidence of any unknown species like Bigfoot combined with the high potential number of encounters has lead me to be a little skeptical.

And nothing has changed. Even if I knew someone personally and they told me monkeys flew out of their butt, I would want evidence before I believed it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

It's amazing the perliferation of digicams, DV cams, phone cams etc. in the past ten years or so hasn't lead to any more evidence, and aside getting a shit sample that proved his sighting wasn't a well intentioned error (humans can convince themselves they see anything, it's not something to take personally), I can;t see my opinion changing.

I'd love it to be true; H. florensis, Big foot, Nessie; hell it would be amazingly interesting.

But my standards of evidence don't change because I think it is a cool idea.

Nathan Natas

I want to echo what Kudra said:

What a creepy eerie experience! I backpack alone a lot and it gives me the chills...

except that I don't backpack - alone or otherwise nowadays.

But CREEPY - yes! Amen!

So ---

what thoughts have been given to ARMING your expedition?

Nothing would be worse than stumbling (no offense intended, I'm sure you are quite steady on your feet) across a rabid cougar or bear and having nothing but a hiking staff and impromptu appeals to the divine to defend yourself with.

A couple of 12 gauge shotguns loaded with slugs would be comforting, provided the handlers of those slug guns could be relied upon to stay steady should they be called into action. but probably the State of California and the Federal Park people would look askance at a paramilitary expedition in a public park. A bit too "Sunday Afternoon in the Park with Schwarzenegger."

So I have some suggestions: A few large cans of OC spray - "pepper oil" I think there are super strong concentrations for use against aggressive animals. The OC would discourage bears and cougars, should you encounter either (or both!) and have time to deploy the spray. If you can get your hands on real CS tear gas, even better. Nerve Agent would be a bad idea though. Bad.

I would also suggest carrying a few of those "canned air" boat horns. Also non-lethal like the OC, but very unpleasant and surprising. Animals don't like it when you can make more noise than they can. At close range, high intensity noise is also destabilising.

I *think* you have the right to carry a fixed blade in National Forests. Probably a few relatively inexpensive KA-BARs (us marine fighting knife) would be good. You don't want a folder (too small, slow access), you want a blade large enough to give a bear or cougar serious problems and sturdy enough to hold up without bending or breaking. A KA-BAR will do that job.

Lastly, I would add and Plutron EnerTech 6.3 kW Pulsed Phase weapon, but that hasn't been invented yet.

FreedomFrog

I know that if Bigfoot was proven, with out a doubt, existed it would be cool but would it be cool to the point of changing some beliefs such as Atheism? Agnostics? Creationists?

I don't mean to sound ignorant on this...but I'll admit, I am. I've only heard occasional stories about Bigfoot. What's so important about finding out if Bigfoot is real or not? Again, sorry for the ignorance...I've tried to look up Bigfoot and stories and can't make heads or tails from it.

And does my question make any sense?

Basically...why such a big hype for Bigfoot when we find new species in our world each year.

FreedomFrog

I just killed the thread with my "stupid" question...didn't I???

LOL

~Froggy~ (quietly leaving now...heehee)

Nathan Natas

It's not a stupid question, FreedomFrog. I'll try in my clumsy way to answer, and then someone can give you a better answer.

The reason it is important is because it helps us define the line between the real and the not-real.

There are bunches of animals - some pretty BIG ones, too! - that were only "legends" a century ago.

What if someone claimed to have captured a tooth fairy in a bottle - wouldn't you want to know about that? It would be evidence of some previously unknown aspect of reality.

Mr. Flipper's Son Hears and Sees Bigfoot- I'm Serious, Not Joking

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