by Younglove1999 38 Replies latest jw experiences
Yes, they'll 'have you' for celebrating the holidays even if your inactive and haven't been associating for ages!
The first Xmas I ever cellebrated; mymother came round whil;e I was out and saw the tree. Shee didn't want to be the one to report us, so after speaking to my borther, he also came round while I was out, looked through the window to see for himself and reported us, all to save my mother the 'heartache'
Crap.
Shell
I can't EVER fathom ratting out my own kid. yet so many JW parents (mine included) are instructed to do so..
reason #4,567 why I don't want to be a JW-
Man is Jehovah going to be mad when you put that tree up. My how he hates trees! And when you celebrate his son's birthday he will be really pissed. Man is he going to be pissed. And as you exchange your gifts he is just going to lose it! He may strike you dead right on the spot. He is always angry around that time of year because there are so many evil bastards celebrating Christmas. He wishes he could just wipe out anyone celebrating, and someday he will. Man is he mad!
You can be disfellowshipped for ANYTHING if the elders want to get rid of you. They'll just make something up. hey have even strectched "loose conduct" to mean disrespect of godly authority. So if they want to disfellowship you, they will. These people are not from God at all. Never were and never will be.
He is always angry around that time of year because there are so many evil bastards celebrating Christmas.
He's pissed because man hasn't been interested in making a pagan holiday to idolize him. God says, "It 's always Jesus this and Jusus that. When are you going to exchange iPods, jewlery, and DVD players in MYYYYYYYYYYYY name?!?!?!?!?!" F**king arrogant PRICK!!
And of course, for the sake of my mother and father, I have to bite my tongue in front of them...for now.
you are in a catch 22 here.... if you openly celebrate Xmas.. then it might force your parents hand in associating with you... not only turning you in, but if you are dfd' they may not associate with you..
but if you hide it.. then your child gets a dysfunctional life too... you can't win..
The only way to avoid being Df'ed is to either live in secrecy or take the plunge and write a letter of DA, actually only your husband has to write one. Depending on Eldership, in mine I am under the headship of my husband and if he wants a tree then I must comply but keep my heart from enjoying the holidays. Best Wishes to your family
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but if you hide it.. then your child gets a dysfunctional life too... you can't win..
Very true-
Putting it out like this kind of makes it clear what direction I want to go. I'm not going to allow this organization to screw up my child. Thankfully she is very young right now (6 months), so I can get away with being very discreet this year.
my husband and I got out of this organization so we can live the way we want to- I'm not going to let it control us even after we've left by dangling my parents in front of us. I know it's easier said than done, but baby steps I guess-
I'm not going to allow this organization to screw up my child. ...my husband and I got out of this organization so we can live the way we want to- I'm not going to let it control us even after we've left by dangling my parents in front of us. I know it's easier said than done, but baby steps I guess-
I really feel for you, but it sounds like you are on the right course to freedom.
Baby steps toward Christmas for your baby should work out. The 6 mo. old
won't remember this year's holiday, so waiting another year before it's more
open could be a good idea. You can still have something behind your mother's
back this year. That gives her another year to get used to the idea that you
aren't coming back to WTS. If another year isn't enough for her to refrain from
turning you in, then you might be ready to just move on.
The suggestion for just your husband to DA is not bad either. You could consider
that if Mom tries to turn you in. He can take all the blame for Christmas or birthdays
or whatever, giving you a little more time.
My fade doesn't include children, so I tread lightly with my opinions and advice. I would
want children to have a normal life from the moment I knew WTS was wrong.
"Normal" at under a year old doesn't have to be rubbed in Grandma's face, though. Keep
seeking advice on how to prepare her for your child's and your "normal" life. Maybe
you can find a way to avoid her ratting you out.
I reached (so far) a nice position with my wife. She knows that it is not necessary to
spy for the elders and try to turn me in. Still, I don't do anything blatently apostate in front
of her, so I am held back much. As time goes on, I get braver and braver. I hate being
stuck in this position, but I can do it.
Re: Re: What exactly can I get disfellowshipped for?
Dang I was looking forward to offering to show you a few things you can get DF'd for until you posted about being married, and kids, and Christmas.
spoiled my dirty old man fun....oompa
