Are you a good person? Take the Bible challenge.

by jesusisgod 149 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • jesusisgod
    jesusisgod

    Most people consider themselves to be a good person. I have asked several people just in passing and with family members, and they have confirmed this. When asked, "Do you consider yourself to be a good person?" I have never heard I am a bad, horrible, wicked human being or anything even close to that. The Bible mentions this claim of most, Proverbs 12:15, 21:2.

    Where do you stand however?

    In light of God's perfect law the 10 Commandments where do you stand? If you're one of the many who thinks they are good here is the Good Test. Judge yourself and listen to your conscience.

    1. You shall have no other gods before Me.

    The one and only true God, YHWH, is the sole divine being we are to worship, love, honor and fear. He is the only one we are to submit ourselves to and praise Him alone for His own glory that He shares with no one. Have you put anything, ever before God? WHat's most important in your life?

    2. You shall not make graven images.

    Most people don't make idols with their hands, but most today do make an idol with their minds. They create a God who is comfortable with their lifestyles, their false ideas about God, create a god in their image after their own likeness. All false religions begin with the misconception of who God is. Also if you've broken the 1st Commandment you have broken this one also.

    3. Do not take the Lord's name in vain.

    Blasphemy. If you have ever said, "Oh God" or "Jesus Christ" when mad or upset to express disgust when you could have used some other word to express disgust this is known as blasphemy. No blasphemer will inherit eternal life.

    4. Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy.

    Do you keep one day in seven set apart for the Lord?

    5. Honor father and mother.

    Have you dishonored your parents? Disobeyed them?

    6. Do not murder.

    Not just the physical act. If you have ever hated someone within your own heart, you might be doing this right now toward me, you are guilty of murder. God doesnt just see our physical acts, He also sees out hearts and thoughts. 1 John 3:15

    7. Do not commit adultery.

    Not just the physical act. If you have ever looked at someone with a lustful eye you have committed adultery. Whether on TV, movies, internet or anywhere else, looking with lust checking out the anatomy of another with your eyes and thought life is considered adultery. If you have done this what does this make you? An adulterer.

    8. Do not steal

    Take something, anything that doesnt belong to you you have become a thief. It doesnt matter how long ago you stole for time doesnt forgive sin.

    9. Do not lie.

    Fibs, white lies, exaggerations, are all lies. Some people lie to make themselves look good to their boss, impress a girl or boy or friends, lie to get out of trouble, what have you lied about? Tell just one lie and this makes you a liar.

    10. Do not covet.

    All the commercials on TV try to get you to covet their products so you will buy them. What have you desired to have that others possess that you want for yourself? Please don't tell me food, because if you have the money to pay for the internet you have enough for that. Coveting is a form of idolatry. Colosians 3:5

    Where do you stand after you have taken the good test? If God judged you by this standard of holiness, be honest, you'd be guilty as the rest of us deserving judgment. I'd like to hear from you. Where do you stand?

  • Warlock
    Warlock

    Pretty much, your "challenge" is full of shit.

    Warlock

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    Commands 1-4 all are repetitively talking about honoring a Hebrew God. So nobody who was raised or believes in other religious traditions can be good?

    Really the only commands that could possibly be categorized as defining "good" people are 5-10.

    Here are the secular 10 commandments to be a better person - a decalogue for the modern world. There are 5 moral ones, and 5 intellectual ones:

    First Commandment:Do not do to others what you would not want them to do to you.

    Second Commandment:In all things, strive to cause no harm.

    Third Commandment:Treat your fellow human beings, your fellow living things, and the world in general with love, honesty, faithfulness and respect.

    Fourth Commandment:Do not overlook evil or shrink from administering justice, but always be ready to forgive wrongdoing freely admitted and honestly regretted.

    Fifth Commandment:Live life with a sense of joy and wonder.

    Sixth Commandment:Always seek to be learning something new.

    Seventh Commandment:Test all things; always check your ideas against the facts, and be ready to discard even a cherished belief if it does not conform to them.

    Eighth Commandment:Never seek to censor or cut yourself off from dissent; always respect the right of others to disagree with you.

    Ninth Commandment:Form independent opinions on the basis of your own reason and experience; do not allow yourself to be led blindly by others.

    Tenth Commandment:Question everything.

    Source: http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/new10c.html

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    Imagine if your sense of morality was so backward as to consider that miserable collection of laws as some sort of ideal. By any reasonable standard, the alternatives that Gopher posted are infinitely superior to the ones posted by jesusisgod. In fact, I'm sure almost anybody could come up with a list of ten laws or moral imperatives that are better than those written in Exodus. There's a law against not working on a Saturday but none against raping a child. (That seems to have not just missed the top ten but been left out of all the hundreds of laws given to Moses). The Ten Commandments are pointless anachronisms and have little to do with morality or goodness. (The prohibitions against murder, theft and perjury are worthwhile but common to virtually every legal system, and probably part of our innate moral sense.)

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    Even if you have your own moral law, can you keep it? I'll bet you can't!

  • cyberdyne systems 101
    cyberdyne systems 101

    Not really a challenge, because by the bible's standards everyone is a sinner, therefore not a good person, and thereby the bible then says we need to have a saviour. Wasn't this the idea proposed in the the NT that no one could live to the standards, and so Jesus came down to redeem what we couldnt by ourselves? If you believe in that book then really you cant be saved unless you become one of christs brothers, if you dont, you remain under law - whether that be our own morals or something like the 10 commandments, which would continue to be broken and so the cycle would continue.

    CS 101

  • Anti-Christ
    Anti-Christ

    I'm a much better person then your god.

  • jesusisgod
    jesusisgod

    Jesus did reiterate the greatest commandment, but also said their was one like it in importance, or equally great,

    1. You shall love the Lord your God with all you heart, soul, mind and strength

    2. You shall love you neighbor as yourself.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    funkyderek:

    Imagine if your sense of morality was so backward as to consider that miserable collection of laws as some sort of ideal. By any reasonable standard, the alternatives that Gopher posted are infinitely superior to the ones posted by jesusisgod. In fact, I'm sure almost anybody could come up with a list of ten laws or moral imperatives that are better than those written in Exodus. There's a law against not working on a Saturday but none against raping a child. (That seems to have not just missed the top ten but been left out of all the hundreds of laws given to Moses). The Ten Commandments are pointless anachronisms and have little to do with morality or goodness. (The prohibitions against murder, theft and perjury are worthwhile but common to virtually every legal system, and probably part of our innate moral sense.)

    Actually, I wouldn't say it's completely left out of the bible, but it's not handled very well...:

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    28 “In case a man finds a girl, a virgin who has not been engaged, and he actually seizes her and lies down with her, and they have been found out, 29 the man who lay down with her must also give the girl’s father fifty silver shekels, and she will become his wife due to the fact that he humiliated her. He will not be allowed to divorce her all his days.
  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    Jeffro:

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    28 “In case a man finds a girl, a virgin who has not been engaged, and he actually seizes her and lies down with her, and they have been found out, 29 the man who lay down with her must also give the girl’s father fifty silver shekels, and she will become his wife due to the fact that he humiliated her. He will not be allowed to divorce her all his days.

    Yes, I didn't mention that because it's not really a prohibition on child rape. The "punishment" is that the rapist has to marry his victim. (A man who rapes a boy would presumably be treated the same as a man who had consensual sex with another man.)

    Of course, this "loving provision" only applied to Israelite girls. Foreign girls could be raped with impunity (see Numbers 31).

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