JK:Heck, you are meeting new friends on this board!
And too bad we dont have a commune. Or enough for a city or large frequent conventions.
Bikerchic:I'm sorry you don't get along with your wife/son.
We get along, no fighting, but nearly nothing in common with my wife now. My son and I have tons in common, but I am pretty much excluded from his circle of friends that I used to do things with despite the age difference.
JPT:I don't see much point to anything either. My wife is firmly in the Borg so very hard to move forward.
Likewise, I hate to admit it cause I feel so "worldly" but it would be much easier to "be me" and move on without her. How can I even say that? Marriage is not supposed to thrown away like worn out shoes. I have seen some here that have, but it scares me and just does not seem right.
Wednesday: If you are bored with our job, maybe you could go back to school and change careers a lot of people do near middle age, or even into retirement age. Time really does go by fast. our lives are over so quickly.
Aren't you the chipper one! lol Actually I have thought about schooling and a change in careers. Life is too slow right now.
Restart: Nothing I like better than getting on my motorcycle and just riding. No destination is necessary, and no company is needed. I have friends that invite me to go riding with them, but I have no desire to do that. Sounds like you have responsibilities, I don't think taking off on a boat would be the thing to do, Nice fantasy though.
I ride too, but rarely enjoy it like in times past...too much time to think. Funny though I like riding alone rather than with others, which even when you do...you aren't really....riding is an individual thing. I can walk away from all responsibilites except wife (unless I am a selfish pig). Have longtime dream of living aboard and came very close once. I always saw that with wife though, now I just want to be either alone or with people I don't know.
V: it sounds is if you and your family might be parting ways and that's ok, albeit sad. keep in touch with folks here and if your feeling like your experiencing some depression talk to a profressional.
See I don't see how that's OK! Probably JW programming. As far as professionals, believe me I have tried, and take more meds than I can keep up with, although I have been cutting back and am determined to get off them. I don't want to go from mind altering religion to mind altering drugs (permanatly). The three Pros I have seen say two things..1. I am and have been in a mojor controlling cult for years and I need to get out and 2. If my wife wont agree to marriage counseling, I need to get a divorce....I asked her in front of the doc for a conseling appointment and she said nothing. Outside, she kind of got mad at me for even bringing it up in front of the Doc, and of course said we should just rely on the elders for that.......vomit....on.....deck......now.
V: Life is not worth living without them. (Rare use of bad language ahead....) SCREW THEM!!!
That is unfortunately how I have felt for about two years now. And except for a very, very few, I don't feel that way. These are good, honest people that I have had a blast with for decades. I wish I could wake them up, but not SCREW THEM.
Scully: I have to keep reminding myself to not be so harshly judgemental and critical of me.
Such a good point Scully. I will try this. JW can make you hate yourself and feel guilty all the time. Thank you.
ATJeff: It really is sort of like the Matrix at times, do you want the red or the blue pill? Ignorance may be bliss, but I would rather be an unhappy lump then live in JW la la land. Honor your feelings, honor what your heart is telling you. It is the hardest thing to do, but know thyself, and like who you see in the mirror my friend....
Sorry Jeff, too many people here think this is like the Matrix. It is a poor comparison. With the blue pill, you go back to your "pre-awakening" state with NO MEMORY of the real truth! If we "go back" we know full frikkin well we are living a lie day in and day out....how is that like the blue pill....that sucks. I am resisiting doing what my heart tells me cause I do care a lot for some immediatly around me. Liking who you see in the mirror could be tough if I always do what my heart says.
thanks all...oompa