We're All Gonna Die!! (page 2)

snowbird

That is a JW idea that doesn't seem to be right, how can death clear the slate of everyone equally, it will be like punishing those that committed serious crimes the same as those that committed minor crimes or transgressions. This doesn't fit reason.

That's EXACTLY what set me to questioning. How could, say, Idi Amin and Nelson Mandela have the same fate? It flies in the face of anything called just. The WTS has it all wrong. They need to begin at Revelation 22:21 and work backward to Genesis 1:1.

Sylvia

Lloyd Braun

Guys, I think you're missing my point here.

We can use this thinking against WTBS thinking.

When they ask "Wouldn't you want to live forever in paradise?" we can respond with, "No, of course not, because..." ..... "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!" (Weeeeeee)

I think if we can get over ourselves, and stop putting ourselves first in our lives, we can put other things first in life, like our families, jobs, and sports cars, then we know what life is all about....

Actually, life is all about putting things in holes. That is what I have found out for the most part.

Lloyd Braun

OnTheWayOut

I will not make the faith leap that death is a punishment or sentence for our sins.
There are good people whose only sins are minor infractions of religious rules.
They haven't cheated anyone and gave their sister the bigger piece of cake when
they were kids. They didn't covet, and they respected their parents. Therefore,
they should not die.

Animals die on a regular basis without committing sins. What justice is that?

I don't mean to start a controversy, but the thread begs for it.

We are all going to die. You suggest a selfish life of debauchery. Since we
all receive the same punishment, eat, drink, and enjoy. Tomorrow we die.

Edited to add: I read your last post now. Not going to work on JW's.
"You say we are all going to die, but Jehovah's Organization promises everlasting life in paradise
to those that are faithfully selling magazines, either by living thru Armaggeddon or resurrection."

REBORNAGAIN

I'm still convinced that what Sylvia Browne says is true:

1. We lived a past life on the other side

2. We will return there upon death

3. We planned our life on this side while still on the other side

4. Our lives on this earth is all a PLANNED learning process to perfect ourself to be presented to God in a perfect state being equal to him in the sense that we were "Made in His likeness"

I don't believe it 100%, but...it makes more sense than what JW's teach and would explain n a whole lot of things, e.g. why some die so young, why others who smoke live so long, why health food nuts die young and why some survived an unbelievable car crash.

LINDA

da ninja

nobody really knows what happens to us when we snuff it......so annoy people while you can

greendawn

That's it Snowbird and I was wondering if they are saying all that because they are feeling guilty about the many crimes they committed against God and man being a deceptive and manipulative culture.

Jesus said there will be a resurrection to life and a resurrection to judgement.

Lloyd Braun

Jesus, Horus, Dionysus, take your pick...

All that stuff is the same thing being spewed out since the days of Egypt.

It's all solar deities and their sun-god-man worship ideas.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Pagan Yeshua

The second link is an article that is pretty good at showing just who "Jesus" is.

Matt

darth frosty

My personal philosophy on death was very well sumarized by A.P.W.B.D.

"After all, to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure."

blueviceroy

I am far from a zealot or a fanatic or even a true believer but when i was I was in rehab (yes I'm a recovering ______ fill in the blank lol ) I was given two visions of a profound nature that caused me to really and I mean really change in a profound and fundamental way . One was like a gallery of statues that were all me in prior existences on earth and I was being told that if I failed as a human being again all the suffering of the prior MEs would have all been in vain some of them were horrible burned or insane or diseased while others appeared to have been successfull

The other was me standing near a creature made of light who was asking me if I was sure i wanted to go there again and that I didn't have to go , but I said to it " No I must go they need me" I dont know who "they " is but those visions (for lack of a better word ) have driven me on a search for answers that hasn't relented since> Maybe all the dope leaving my body caused some kind of halucination , but It was a unique feeling and caused such a deep and profound change in me that wasn't just from hearing or seeing something . I felt a realness and energy that left me with a certainty that is impossible for me to refute .

I never believed in reincarnation and the jury is still out on everything else ,What I FELT was real but does that make it a real thing?

Lloyd Braun

Dreams are real, Blueviceroy, while also they are not. It depends on your aspect.

When we sleep or hallucinate, we experience all sorts of synapses and brain glitches and twitches, and various notions throughout the night (or in my case day).

So visions are just as much real as they are not real.

I still wonder why people can't just be happy with what they have. Just being complacent with complacency itself is an easy task to conquer, but yet, we keep "wanting".

The heck with "want". Want has only gotten me into trouble all my life.

I think now I will just "be".

Shalom Aleichem to that.

Matt

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