What happens to marriage partners in the 'New System'?

by ThomasCovenant 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • ThomasCovenant
    ThomasCovenant

    Hi

    Scenario 1 ..................When one 'faithful' partner dies in this 'system' and is resurrected and the other survives through Armageddon

    Scenario 2...................Both partners die and are resurrected into the 'New System'

    As members are now dying off this is the reality facing those longterm aged members of the Borg. The hope of seeing their former partner in the 'New System' is what is going to keep them going and was mentioned to me recently as what keeps one 'brother' still in after his wife died.

    However I'm not sure what the official belief from Brooklyn is on this matter. Will they be able to take their former relationship?

    Thanks for any info

    Thomas Covenant

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    In their interminable war against marriage, the Watchtower Society keeps altering the minutes about these things. However, the best I was able to get out of it indicates that neither scenarios would result in the marriage surviving. Once your partner dies, you are free to remarry. When the partner is resurrected, that person is not only no longer married, but is no longer free to marry ever again.

    If both partners die and are resurrected, then both are single when resurrected. The marriage ends when the first partner dies, and if the other dies later, the marriage is already gone. When both are resurrected, they are "as the angels" and single. Worse, neither are free to get married in that "new" order, any more than the angels that became demons were when they married earthlings. Some incentive for me to go screeching around from 5:30 AM until after midnight trying to sell this message to others.

    This outlook might be out of date. It was prevailing in the early 1990s and I have heard nothing to contradict it from the Tower since. They are continually reversing their position, and might (or might have already) reverse this like they did with the resurrection of Solomon and the Sodomites. But, until and unless this is undone, I am hoping that people are deterred from ever joining the Watchtower Society by it. And, even if they later reverse it, hopefully those articles from the 1990s will embarrass them and cause them to stumble.

  • sparrow
    sparrow

    If I die can I have 10 mistresses - all with a keen desire to try new positions my perfect body will be able to bend into?

  • shopaholic
    shopaholic

    WTWizard, that's still the current teaching. BTW, it never made sense to me.

    I knew a lot of folks that got married in their late teens and early 20's because they did not want to die virgins because of the this teaching. They just married whoever would marry them. Literally, they met, got engaged, six to eight months later you're hearing the shulamite maiden song. Several brothers I met in the early 90's at conventions would say, " We should get married" and I would say,"But I don't know you and I still have to finish my degree (or I just got my degree)" and they would say "But we could die at any moment and then we can't marry anyone in new world". and I would say "I'm willing to take my chances". Then when the 1995 generation change happened and they realized they had more time and they were in horrible marriages, a number of them separated or got a divorced.

  • Witness 007
    Witness 007

    Resurected people will have no gentals or boobs and cannot marry.

  • Bumble Bee
    Bumble Bee
    When the partner is resurrected, that person is not only no longer married, but is no longer free to marry ever again.

    WTWizard, as far as I know, this is still the current the current teaching. When my father died 5 years ago, guess what the Sunday talk was about? Yep. I went with my mom, we were late so had to sit in the front row, and the talk was all about this topic. I felt so bad for my mother having to listen to this.

    My father always prayed his health would hold out long enough for them to go into the "new system" together so they could remain married.

    Makes me sick to think how much pain this teaching causes those that have lost spouses.

    BB

  • Frequent_Fader_Miles
    Frequent_Fader_Miles
    Once your partner dies, you are free to remarry. When the partner is resurrected, that person is not only no longer married, but is no longer free to marry ever again.

    If both partners die and are resurrected, then both are single when resurrected. The marriage ends when the first partner dies, and if the other dies later, the marriage is already gone. When both are resurrected, they are "as the angels" and single. Worse, neither are free to get married in that "new" order

    This explanation made no sense to me either! True, one may reason that the marriage ends when one (or both) partner/s die ... but why can't they be married again? After all, the earth would need to be repopulated, right? And with the "old" becoming "young" again, are they saying that someone in this circumstance has to "continue alone" in the same way Jehovah found that Adam shouldn't? Such reasoning defies all logic!

  • karvel
    karvel

    can i get some quotes people? this is just ridiculous.

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    Every time I hang out here with you fine folks, I learn something new.

    I had NO IDEA this was the current ideology. What a crock... or, rather, should I say, what a DETERANT!!! I just don't know how they come up with this stuff. Good thing the light keeps getting brighter, aye...

    aye yi yi

    Thanks for posting this,
    Baba.

  • oompa
    oompa

    There is only one good reason there is no marraige for resurected ones, and we even have scripture about what if so and so married a bunch of times. It is not freaks with no boobs or some organs. We already have the "type" with concubines once being approved of! the "antitype" must be concubines will be all the rage in paradise. Logical too as there have always been more women on earth than men.

    im going back to all the meetings now.....oompa

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