how will I know you in paradise?

by tula 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • tula
    tula

    so we have been led to believe that we will all look the same as we do now...except we will have no flaws and a perfected body without deformity or ailment. hmmm....

    How do we know this to be true? Is there any scriptural reference to this aspect of "resurrection"? Or is it a "fractured fairy tale"?

    Here is what we have been told concerning resurrection of Jesus:

    immediately after he arose from the grave, this is his appearance:

    John 20:15-16

    "They have taken my Lord away," she said, "and I don't know where they have put him." 14 At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.

    15 "Woman," he said, "why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?"
    Thinking he was the gardener, she said, "Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him."

    (My commentary: and now...what's this? Jesus in overalls? certainly his appearance is very much altered or disguised.)

    16 Jesus said to her, "Mary."
    She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, "Rabboni!" (which means Teacher).

    (my commentary: Does she recognize him from his voice? Or a mannerism? Or something x-file-ish he does?)

    Commentary: So upon taking a new form, obviously rather human looking as to be mistaken for a gardener...Jesus was unrecognizable to someone who knew him so well. What do you all make of this?

    Here is another alternate appearance after his resurrection:

    Mark 16:12

    9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons. 10 She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping. 11 When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.

    12 Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country . 13 These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.

    The BaghavaGita, in support of reincarnation, says that "the spirit changes bodies in the way that the body changes clothes."

    So, again, what do you all make of the unrecognizable appearances?

    Then, again, there is yet another alternate appearance of Jesus before his death. This is referred to as the "transfiguration"

    matthew 17:2 describes the transfiguration:

    2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light.

    (so now, this is like something from x-files)

    So, from these episodes of example...how do you think you will recognize each other in a life after death?

    Are your ideas based on fantasy or scripture? Please give evidence.

  • Awakened07
    Awakened07

    - If you're asking a JW, they will say (I think, if I remember correctly) that Jesus was given a new kind of body when he had been resurrected, one which he could go directly up to heaven with. So he was kinda not flesh, but at the same time "fleshy enough" that Thomas could touch his wounds (a little weird that he had those wounds and it was considered evidence, since he had gotten a new body).

    I think this is a problem regardless of denomination?

    As for JWs in paradise:

    so we have been led to believe that we will all look the same as we do now...except we will have no flaws and a perfected body without deformity or ailment. hmmm....

    Yeah - think about it: an older, fat, bald, acne-ridden, glasses-wearing, lazy-eyed, crooked-teethed man is resurrected, and since he's given a perfect body, he's no longer old, fat, bald, have clean skin, no glasses, straight eyes, straight teeth - a lighter voice due to less body fat... How easy would he be to recognize?

  • REBORNAGAIN
    REBORNAGAIN

    "By their fruits you will recognize them!"

    The whole Bible is a mystery. Will we EVER know the real facts?

    I love your question. Thought provoking to say the least!

    LINDA

  • tula
    tula

    do you still believe this concept?

  • IsaacJS2
    IsaacJS2

    do you still believe this concept?

    Not even a little.

    IsaacJ

  • kerj2leev
    kerj2leev
    Thinking he was the gardener

    This one is easy.....we will all come back as mexicans!

  • blueviceroy
    blueviceroy

    I'll be nude and being fed delicious food by voluptuous hawiian women as I lie in a hammock awaiting my ritual bathing and relief ceremony LOL!

  • oompa
    oompa

    Tula, I hope I will still have that little birthmark you like way up my thigh....oompa

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Come to the next apostafest in Portland and you can meet me in person. I'll already in paradise and you're welcome to join in! Oh, I'll be wearing my favorite Pentelton plaid! carmel

  • 5go
    5go

    Yeah, you really going to have it hard with me.

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