Jesus became King of God's Kingdom in 1914.

by TooBad TooSad 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • TooBad TooSad
    TooBad TooSad

    When I think back on the last 45 years of my life as a JW, it truly is remarkable

    how I as an intelligent person could have believed all of the things that the WTBTS

    taught as doctrine and then for myself to teach others the same doctrine.

    We could all give examples of this, however I was just sitting here drinking my coffee

    when I began to wonder what has Jesus been doing since 1914? This is the year

    that the WTBTS said that God enthorned his Son to rule the world. In a few short years

    it will be 100 years that God put his Son on the throne and what have the benefits or

    results been? 100 years is a long time. Let's see now----we still have the wicked in

    the world, people still are getting old or sick and die, there are millions of people who

    are starving, there are plenty of wars in the world, etc. If Jesus was put on His throne

    in 1914 what has He been doing? Oh, I forgot, He is directing the preaching work and

    directing the angels to find the honest hearted ones and perhaps He is helping in

    holding back the winds of Armageddon until every last deserving sheeplike person

    is contacted and brought into the Truth. Today when the US elects a president, there

    are immediate impacts felt not only in America but all over the world. We may not

    like what each president does about taxes, social programs, or involement in war,

    but we see the results of his Presidency in a matter of months. After almost 100 years

    of Jesus being King of the Kingdom the world is not a better place. Maybe in due

    time there will be new light from the WTBTS about what is going on in heaven. They

    will probably wait until the 100 year anniversery of the 1914 event.

  • Zico
    Zico

    It's sort of funny that the WT uses 'worsening world conditions' as proof of Jesus' enthronement. It makes him seem pretty inept!

  • Homerovah the Almighty
    Homerovah the Almighty

    But you have to admit it, it was dam good marketing though and gee to have god endorse your products

    And isn't it interesting that the leading constructor of the organization was a professional salesman.....just a thought

  • Carl_Hernz
    Carl_Hernz

    I know how you feel when you ask the question on how we as intelligent people could have fallen for
    the trappings of the Watchtower Society and its odd doctrines, such as the invisible presence of Christ
    in 1914.

    To illustrate, I learned upon my coming out of the Witnesses that I score very high in IQ and aptitude
    tests like the WAIS. Technically speaking, scoring on these tests generally place me in the “superior”
    range of the Gaussian bell scale, ranging between 3 and 2 percent of the highest scores. While I was
    completely unaware of this while I was a Witness (and hated by them for the natural talents that came
    as a result—an entirely different story), it does make one wonder how intellect plays in an individual’s
    entrance into cults or authoritarian religions.

    I have done a little research that tends to suggest that we might be letting the Watchtower still affect
    us when we think: “Wow! How could I have fallen for that!” In reality we didn’t “fall” for anything, and
    neither were we not thinking or emotionally weak and searching for a clutch. Remember, the Watchtower is
    a proselytizing machine. It is designed to make converts, and it does this much like a virus attacks a
    person, without regard to education, social status, race, gender, national origin, or intelligence quotient.

    Recall that none of us could “join” the Witnesses, even if we begged to be admitted. We were “recruited.”
    To blame the recruits for not knowing everything about the Organization is exactly how the Watchtower
    would like us to think. How can one expect a “newbie” to know all the hidden details of a religion that
    fails at so many of its predictions? Not possible.

    Everyone wants answers to life’s most puzzling questions, and the Witnesses claim to see all things
    clearly, offering clean cut answers for almost everything. This is both empowering and isolating, as
    the mainstream historical religions do not have answers for everything. Judaism, Christianity, Islam,
    Buddhism, etc. all have a mystical aspect as the pinnacle of achievement in their faiths. The Witnesses
    convince their members that accepting answers that “transcend” basic human reason are ridiculous. They
    are very good at convincing us that the way to really know the “truth” is through scholastic study and
    research. This does seem reasonable, at first. Eventually it leads to emptiness because it makes their
    religious experience nothing more than dry research. Unlike some cults that bend the minds of their
    recruits by means of keeping protein out of their diets, the Witnesses do their mind bending by keeping
    spirituality out of their recruits’ souls, so to speak.

    So we shouldn’t be upset at ourselves for having believed in the Witnesses false doctrines like the
    invisible rule of Christ. If we had suspected that they were hiding a history of errors from us, they
    would not have worked so hard to recruit us in the first place. Remember, it isn’t the person that suspects
    something is wrong that makes a good recruit for the Witnesses, rather it is the unsuspecting person
    that is the prime target.

  • TooBad TooSad
    TooBad TooSad

    Carl,

    I appreciated your well thought out comments. You know how to

    express yourself. Maybe we believed all of the WTBTS doctrines

    because we wanted to live in a fairy tale of the earth being transformed

    to a beautiful park, growing young again, living forever, and seeing our

    dead loved ones through the resurrection. If something is too good to

    be true and it usually is.

  • oompa
    oompa

    Too Sad, I like your post and am in sooo much agreement. I actually stated two threads yesterday involving this date and the things going on before and after it. As a 4th gen razed in (yes razed in), I too can not believe I ever accepted this BS. But actually, I started to have major doubts at age 19 or at least started expressing them, so I am a little proud of that. I have doubted very strongly for at least 15-20 years, which is also probably why I found the dtd ministry and conventions pure hell. Marriage, kids, and interaction with (what you think are) friends around you, you are distracted from acting on your doubts, and when you do, we know the consequences....I have few friends now and I am not even DA or DF (yet)....but I am starting to get a feeling inside I have never felt before, and I like it....oompa

  • confused and lost
    confused and lost

    This whole 1914 thing has been based on the fall of Jerusalem in 607 BCE,however I have been researching this date recently and after several headaches am no where near understanding how the WTS can use this date.After a recent visit to my "million pound state of the art library" and reviewing several books on Bible history and archaeology the date givin is never 607BCE but 586/7 BCE.Interestingly in the book "The Bible Gods word or mans" on p 48 reference is made to the Babylonian Chronicle to show that archaeology supports the biblical fact that Judah was subjugated by the Babylonians and Jehoiachin captured.What isn't stated is the date givin in this chronicle namely 598/7 BCE.The chronicle then mentions the appointment of Zedekiah as king.As Zedekiah reigned for 11 years untill the overthrow of Jerusalem simple maths shows that this must have taken place c.587/6 BCE not 607 BCE.Also it has to be noted that the WTS accepts some dates from these chronicles i.e. 539 BCE as the date of Cyrus defeat over Babylon but conveniently rejects other cuneiforms that do not fit in with their date setting theories.Is it any wonder that genuine truth seekers are questioning the claim of the WTS to be the "faithfull and discreet slave"

  • TooBad TooSad
    TooBad TooSad

    Oompa,

    I am a faithful follower of your posts.

    TBTS

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot
    Recall that none of us could “join” the Witnesses, even if we begged to be admitted. We were “recruited.”
    To blame the recruits for not knowing everything about the Organization is exactly how the Watchtower
    would like us to think. How can one expect a “newbie” to know all the hidden details of a religion that
    fails at so many of its predictions? Not possible.

    Stop and think too, that what we "first heard" was then followed up with many months (sometimes years) of clever indoctrination procedure that avoided any mention of the WTS hideous past and its behavior towards its OWN, such as the Mexico/Malawi fiasco, the REAL reason for the "Donation Arrangement", the Tacoma Dome parking lot lies, the UN involvement, etc, etc.

    Everyone wants answers to life’s most puzzling questions, and the Witnesses claim to see all things
    clearly, offering clean cut answers for almost everything. This is both empowering and isolating, as
    the mainstream historical religions do not have answers for everything. Judaism, Christianity, Islam,
    Buddhism, etc. all have a mystical aspect as the pinnacle of achievement in their faiths. The Witnesses
    convince their members that accepting answers that “transcend” basic human reason are ridiculous. They
    are very good at convincing us that the way to really know the “truth” is through scholastic study and
    research. This does seem reasonable, at first. Eventually it leads to emptiness because it makes their
    religious experience nothing more than dry research. Unlike some cults that bend the minds of their
    recruits by means of keeping protein out of their diets, the Witnesses do their mind bending by keeping
    spirituality out of their recruits’ souls, so to speak.

    When the WTS had our attention, it managed to convince US that they were indeed "special", they had insights that NO OTHERS had, were God's mouthpiece and only channel today, that THEY were the ONLY path to attain salvation....and that even THINKING about leaving THEM..... would be tantamount to leaving God to pursue one's OWN selfish path.

    How wonderful it IS to finally be free of this mindset!

  • TooBad TooSad
    TooBad TooSad

    I still go to some of the meetings to keep peace in the family,

    however I do not go from door to door, do not have a family study, and I feel free.

    I just sit at the meetings off to the side in the giggle weeds as I get entertained

    by the comments made during the meetings. Sometimes I almost bust out

    laughing and at other times I get so pissed off as everyone nods their heads in

    agreement when stupid impossible comments are made. The WTBTS no longer has

    control of me. I truly think that many in attendance see the doctrinal conflicts but they keep

    hoping that this has got to be the truth. The generation of Russel's time has

    passed away, the generation that saw 1914 has passed away, and before you

    know it, the generation that believed in the 1975 Watchtower teaching will pass

    away.

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