Help me, this new light confuses me....

by dawg 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • dawg
    dawg

    Sorry Tula, I didn't read this message becasue I must have been posting while you were writing it. On the mushrooms... I think the bible was written by men who were tripping.

    As for the changes, man,, it's hard to say what effect this will have. Here's what confuses me.

    1) If you questio the GB decisions you'll be disfellowshipped

    2) They are now claiming they're not inspired just directed

    3) If they're not inspired then why is questioning them a DF offence?

    and round and round we go, when will people see the truth, nobody knows

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Slow down. You are running ahead of the organization. They may very well change some light
    to the things you say, but to say it before it is in print or released at a convention, well- that's
    a disfellowshipping offense.

    Until the Members Only magazine comes out, the local dubs would still say that "this generation"
    means what it did after 1995. Only after it is covered, can they suddenly change.

    Let's look at your points and point out your flaws.

    ...allow everyone who feels the spirit to partake of the memorial then that means that there may be no limit on how many are sealed.... am I right?

    The spirit-directed organization doesn't get enough spirit-direction to say that people are not able to partake.
    You are supposed to understand that they know everything and nothing at the same time. Partaking and
    being sealed are not the same thing. Many are wrong about the heavenly calling, but what can they do about
    them partaking?

    then ther's no longer a 144K? Right?

    This is where you run ahead of the organization. Before they decide such a thing, they have to see if the
    rank and file figure out that the math doesn't really work. If they buy this stuff, and ignore the math, then
    they might not make a change to the 144k being literal. If they are going to lose more members over that
    question, then 2/3rds of the GB will receive spirit direction.

    what does that mean about the great crowd?

    These are not effected. The other sheep will imminently face great tribulation and survive into paradise as
    the great crowd. Actually, more partakers is good for the great crowd. Since many of the partakers are
    unstable mental patients, or just plain wrong, they knock themselves out of competition for the spots of
    elder (or elderette) and elders will be princes in Paradise. It's good to be a prince.

    Isn't it also true that the 144K "annointed ones" are part of the FADS?

    Yes, and occasionally that is pointed out. But think of those "taking the lead" in the organization. Forget
    about the slave that serves in your local area. They might actually be those unstable mental patients and
    not the real McCoy.

    ...anyone who in the FADS that wants to question policy of the FADS can't be dis-fellowshipped. I bet that rule won't change.

    Remember Ray Franz. Nobody is safe. Judas fell away. So can the slave members.

    I still don't understand why more don't question John 5: Jesus plainly says that everyone who takes the emblems gets everlasting life. What of the Grest crowd, they don't get everlasting life...

    There you go, independently thinking again. That's not allowed. Tsk, tsk. They might have to give you the axe.

    this pisses me the hell off!

    You are not alone.

  • dawg
    dawg

    OTWO,

    THat was funny as hell, but what you said about the ones in the cong that partake... thay they may be "bad fish" or something to that effect... they are of the "annointed" so therefore, they are the same as the FADS... what if the GB is in fact made of bad fish? What a crock ofm crap this whole thing is.

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Most JW's don't really care what the "Faithful Slave" says or does because they are too busy bowing down to the "Faithful Slave" to be concerned about all the little stuff.

  • 5go
    5go

  • LaniB
    LaniB

    It almost makes me want to go back for a memorial at my old congregation just to see who partakes.

    I'm sure certain people will and I am sure that the elders will be giving talks both from the platform and approaching certain people in the weeks beforehand to let them know that they are not considered to be annointed in that elders eyes and they are not, under any circumstance, to consider partaking.

    But it is only almost, as much fun as it might be it just would take up too much time.

  • Gerard
  • KW13
    KW13

    They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the other sheep have; nor do they expect special treatment or claim that their partaking of the emblems places them above the appointed elders in the congregation. They humbly remember that some anointed men in the first century did not qualify to serve as elders or ministerial servants.

    haha, mum the other day in a discussion was saying how the anointed had the holy spirit in a different way

  • AlphaOmega
    AlphaOmega

    KW13 -

    haha, mum the other day in a discussion was saying how the anointed had the holy spirit in a different way

    That what they wanted people to think - but they seem to have shot themselves in the foot with this line. Now they just want all people to bow and scrape to the slave !

    Take a look here : http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/133188/1.ashx

  • KW13
    KW13

    aside from their 'destination' they are indentical lol.

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