Poztate,
That outline is pure corporate coldness. It digusts me. I hate this religion. It dehumanizes people.
by truthseeker 27 Replies latest jw friends
Poztate,
That outline is pure corporate coldness. It digusts me. I hate this religion. It dehumanizes people.
Much of what I heard in relation to the funeral had no bearing whatsoever on the deceased - it was as if they had never existed.
The elders stand there looking like they've been paid to be part of a crowd scene.
Many people ignored me if they could manage it - I am slowly fading - I feel the final embers of my life in this religion die out.
It's been a long time coming. I can't wait for the day when I can say "it has come to pass."
I just can't get over how happy people were - the noise was as loud or even louder than a regular meeting at the Kingdom Hall.
I can't even call it passive sympathy - there was no sympathy, no real grief, nothing.
Someone's mother had died - she wasn't a witness by the way, but the elder agreed to give the talk - it was such a transparent affair.
I know what you mean about some JW funerals. I been to a couple of them and like you say they are very emotionless and not much about the poor deceased. I went to a Humanistic funeral and it was really moving as the Funeral Conductor spoke about the life of the departed and her favourite songs were played. It was a lovely and compassionate service.
Maddie
I've given two funeral discourses while a JW. Both individuals had mostly worldly friends and relatives. Definitely more non-witnesses were at both funerals than Witnesses. In both cases, I really talked about (((the person))) extensively and positively. I tried to make it more personal while maintaining a good level of respect for the occasion. And then more or less tying in a few of the JW beliefs (mandatory if I was to remain a JW) while talking about how the deceased would appreciate such promises because of their love for gardening or whatever else they personally were into.
The JW's truly enjoyed the way it was done. It's not so much that the JW's are this shallow and legalistic minded as much as FOLLOWING THE RULES FROM BROOKLYN.
JW funerals are just another meeting, with one important difference - they view it as a great opportunity to "witness" to all the non-JW relatives in attendance.
When my aunt died, initially my mom had planned to have a small family gathering at which we could all share our memories of my aunt, something my daughters and I wholeheartedly endorsed. Suddenly the next day she had been overruled by my elder brother and elder uncle, and they set up a regular JW funeral instead.
It was appalling. One of my nieces even had her bible and was looking up scriptures as if it was the Watchtower study. My daughters and I walked out of there just shaking our heads at what a sham it had been, and then my sister comes up and says, "wasn't that a GREAT funeral talk?"
The sad thing was, that funeral was exactly what my aunt would have wanted - it would have made her ecstatic if she could have converted a few people by dying.
At my cousin's funeral, she was fading at the time and so was I, the eder giving the talk pointed to us younger folks sitting in the audience and siad we were the reasons she stopped serving Jehovah, my dad defended it. I was pissed.
At my cousin's funeral, she was fading at the time and so was I, the eder giving the talk pointed to us younger folks sitting in the audience and siad we were the reasons she stopped serving Jehovah, my dad defended it. I was pissed.
Are you serious?? That's sick to say something like that on that occasion.
After the Funeral..Dead Jehovah`s Witness`s are sent to WBT$ owned Taxidermy,"Stuff a Dub".....They are stuffed and sent to Kingdom Halls with low meeting attendance..Some are placed on street corners holding the WatchTower and Awake........Jehovah`s Witness`s are no longer buried!..They are re-cycled and sent to "Where the Need is Great!"........OUTLAW
They are cold, they just look at you like you don't belong.