by oompa 29 Replies latest jw friends
Well, brother, we're down together! I feel like you a lot! Too much drama in my life right now! I'm just taking it one day at a time. I don't know what my "kick starter" will be! Let's hope for a real big kick in the ass uplifter! I can't sleep neither!
This song, "No Christmas For The Jehovah's Witness", I heard it here first. I managed to contact the guy and ask him if he minded if I made a video to it. He responded in a comment under the song. Another ex-witness responded, and a witness responded. I think I went ballistic on the witness!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XxKBmjFOyGo This song makes me sad and makes me laugh! *sigh*
((((((oompa))))). sorry you're not in a good place right now.
Your kids need you. They may not see it now bu as they get older you can be the balance a JW kid needs.
Heck! I don't even know what kind of music you like? What's your preference in music?
Anyway, here's another song! Linkin Park - In The End http://youtube.com/watch?v=oIwWqYSbzGA
Here's a gospel song that I like. I forgot the person on here that shared this with me. Anyway, thanks, again!
We Fall Down - http://youtube.com/watch?v=sYa5MY3MRXc
WE DONT WANT TO HEAR YOUR TRUTHS YOU THINK YOU HAVE FOUND, LEAVE US ALONE AND LET US HAVE OUR TRUTH (illusion).
Oompa, I hear ya. Your statement above reminds me of an illustration about illusions and truth in Plato's "allegory of the cave" in his book The Republic. You can google this to find the text and many interpretations, but to summarize, Plato talks about cavemen who in a cave, are chained, and whose faces are turned toward the stone wall before them. Behind them lies a light source that they cannot see, but it throws shadowy immaes on the wall and is both what they only know and believe. One of the cavemen breaks his chain, escapes the cave and is blinded by the sun and stammers around until his eyes adjust to the light. He sees everything outside of the cave and with excitement, returns to the cave to tell everyone what he saw and to leave the cave, but they are not interested in the least and only want to believe their truth of the shadows on the wall.
Most who study Plato believe that the caveman who escapes represents "the philosopher" (like Plato) and the sun represents truth and science. I'll leave any interpretations to you, but I think Plato's allegory of the cave is so appropriate for us who have left the JWs.
Hang in there,
NYCkid
(((Hugs))) Oompa! Now, I am not suggesting you up and make rash decisions on your life, or do anything permanent at this time, but it almosts sounds to me, like you need a "mini-break" perhaps even visit some ex-jws who don't live too far, have a weekend away, where you can discuss how you are feeling, without worrying about who's around, or being told to zip it.
You are feeling lonely, left out in the cold, with no where to turn. A few days with some common threads and comfort of those who do understand you, would do you a world of good IMO. It might give you the release of tension, to go back home, focused, renewed and more at peace. It's one thing to talk online to some of us and know we understand, its another to actually have your own little mini apostafest, where you can truly let your hair down, relax, have some laughs, discussions and leave feeling like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders.
Is there anyone or some who you could possibly meet for a weekend and feel comfortable enough to do so? Perhaps you are worried that you would be discovered, I am not sure. But at the same time, from the sounds of it, its something you need to do. Be in the company of those who do want to listen to you, who do understand. Just an idea anyway. Thinking of you, and hoping you are feeling better.
I think many here know that I'm searching to find my truth. I wasn't raised as a Jehovah's Witness. I was raised to believe in God and Jesus's sacrifice; but I seen hypocrisy in my mother's religion; so I listened to the Witnesses (other things played into this). I'm not asking him to believe in anything but himself at this time. Those songs help me to think. If he decides to become a Buddhist Monk or decides to not believe in anything that's his right and I won't judge him for it.
That's why I asked him what songs he liked. I just want him to know that I care, and I'm just as lost as he is. But, "we can get back up again" somehow.
I know that I don't ever want to belong to a another religion that makes me feel that without it there's no hope!
Does that make sense?
First, I want to say a big THANK YOU ALL (told you it would be big)! Only have a sec as damn holidays put the JW family in the house. Couple a thinks you guys need to know....my dear df son 22 is out on his own, and the other 20 is 50-50 time with his mom who is a die-hard dub who lives very near and of course he put a long day in the ministry today!!!!!! as a pioneer and mini-serve. And really...right now I don't matter too much to either...but that is ok as I was pretty busy at that age too. Now..
101: I was constantly wound up by what I was discovering and the passion that i wanted to tell those close to me. The only way i've become happy is to get through that period of time and then let it go. Sure from time to time I still get angry but on the whole I have moved away from the constant mental battle of it.
I have really shut up now, but have not done the let go part. Everyone close to me knows 100 percent I do not believe anymore and have explained to thoroughly why, even elders...still not df'd....only used WT sources and have no answers, just questions. I do know BS when I have eaten it though. So I am not faking anything anymore. It is funny but NOBODY ever asks me or fam whats up or where am I, but every meeting I get the soandso said hello. One great non-judgmental JWbud called me and said his old mom called him and asked if knew I was an apostate!!!! I told him BS and that by my standards I was not and evidently the scared elders felt so too. But believe me I am treated like one...and my young one is very distant with me.
My sec got longer as my wife decided to sew something. Lots of great input from you guys, and great pms...I am supposed to start writing music again! Good therapy for sure, but so is JWD.....
Sweetstuff: (((Hugs))) Oompa! Now, I am not suggesting you up and make rash decisions on your life, or do anything permanent at this time, but it almosts sounds to me, like you need a "mini-break" perhaps even visit some ex-jws who don't live too far, have a weekend away, where you can discuss how you are feeling, without worrying about who's around, or being told to zip it.
What to do....what to do....let's see..I have 287,000 frequent flyer miles, love snow, girls in santa hats, and need to spend some time away talking with someone I could relate to.....huummmm..............oompa
