Question about "Status" in WTS

by GoodnessGracious 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • GoodnessGracious
    GoodnessGracious

    jgnat – We married when he wasn’t active didn’t think he would go back. He married me because he loved me, we have a long past together and Im guessing either he thought it wouldn’t be a big deal when he decided to go back or though he could convert me .. lol .. we have been arguing terribly for the past few days because I just think he is nuts for believing the crap.

    Today he was infuriated w/me because I asked what would he do if our son needed a transfusion he goes into this well there are alternatives to blood, do you know that most peoples body rejects blood .. blah blah.. then I said, point blank what would you do, and he said read Acts verse something and I was like no Im asking YOU this questions don’t push me off on the bible, and he said he understands that I don’t accept Jehovah Gods Sovernty .. WTF does that mean LOL .

    . I thought Id be more understanding than this. Maybe Im reacting bad to this, he keeps saying, why don’t you ask a brother or sister.. im like why would I ask a witness who wouldn’t give me an objective answer. But there is no going back, he is in it again … and Im perplexed as what to do … [/rant] Maybe my bad reaction is making him think he needs to get more involved with the church I guess to him Satan done made a home in my brain LOLOLOL , I keep thinking the more bad reaction I have the more Im making the witnesses seem ... LOL

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    You wrote: "I thought Id be more understanding than this."

    It sounds to me like you're very understanding. You're living with a nut who would abuse your child and you understand that. That's not a fault. Withholding pragmatic medical treatment from a child is the worst kind of child abuse in my opinion. One of the worst things that can happen to a child on this planet is to have a Jehovah's Witness parent in my opinion.

    I wouldn't live with a believing, practicing Jehovah's Witness and if I had a minor child, I wouldn't let a believing Jehovah's Witness within 100 miles of the child. I wouldn't let Witness grandparents within 1,000 miles.

    I don't debate a believing Jehovah's Witness. It's a waste of my time. It's like trying to reason with a drunk. You won't get anywhere, and they won't remember what you said anyway.

    Usually the worst enemy a child has is the parent(s). Usually the worst enemy of a family are relatives. Witnesses love death. Their group is based on death and death is a reinforcement for them. They can't be trusted and there's never an exception to that.

  • GoodnessGracious
    GoodnessGracious

    garybuss – that’s so sad to me. I wish that he would have thought long and hard about this before asking me to be his wife. He probably knew all along that he was going back and instead of me asking if he would, I assumed he wouldn’t go back because I never knew anyone who did.

    I feel really bamboozled . and he really doesn’t get why its such a big deal to me. I don’t want my child involved in a hate mongering doomsday religion that only thinks of itself as righteous and correct. Imagine me allowing my child to be poisoned against me , learning that anyone who isn’t a witness is gonna “die” and is evil LOL

    I know of plenty mixed marriages, mainly non JW males and JW females , that have worked out, since I guess the Man is still the head of the household even though they are not witnesses, but I have really never heard of the opposite.

    Im losing respect for my husband and its is overwhelmingly sad to me . But were married and nothing I can say will change his view so I guess I either have to accept that this is how he is and what he is going to do or there is gonna be a problem. :(

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    Hi GoodnessGracious,

    If I want a Witness to know something, I keep it a secret from them. A Witness is more inquisitive than a cat. They can't stand being ignored or ignorant. My policy is, I don't tell a Witness anything. If they ask me something related to the Witnesses I tell them I can't tell them.

    I left the group way before my wife did and I sort of ignored them until the Witnesses started shunning me. That didn't go over well at all. After they started shunning me, I punished her for being a Witness, and I made it tough for her to be a Witness. Before the shunning started I was sort of indifferent about it.

    I'd ask her if she wanted to go out and eat Thursday night and she'd say no. So Thursday night came she got ready to go to the meeting and I was getting dressed, she'd ask where are you going? I'd say, going out to eat. Remember I asked you and you said no. And I'd go without her. . . . week after week.

    I started to reward myself because she was going to the meetings. I'd go out to eat every Thursday with a club I belonged to. If she had a weekend assembly, I'd take a weekend trip out of town to somewhere she liked. Pretty soon, I didn't care if she went to meetings or not, I had a better life now than before and more friends.

    I took week long vacations without her and I had a better time than if she'd have gone along. She wanted to live separate lives, I was living a better separate life than her.




  • Dagney
    Dagney
    Just to understand (and exJW's correct me if I'm wrong), the progression of "responsibility" runs from publisher --> pioneer --> Ministerial Servant --> Presiding Overseer --> Circuit Overseer.

    A pioneer is someone who puts in a larger amount of field service hours. It is not a position of "reponsibility," although they are considered "the cream of the crop."

    There are other positions of responsibility between PO and Circuit Overseer. A CO is a "full time service" position, so the person would need to be in various aspects of the work to be offered that position.

    Hope this helps.

  • GoodnessGracious
    GoodnessGracious

    I was thinking that I definitely have to get another car because I was like I’m gonna find myself a hobby. I will be damned if I am gonna just be at home just me and my son while he is washing his brain (got that from a dr phil show… hilarious)

    And I keep telling myself that I am going to keep my calm and just be like, Okay and smile, nod my head and not get so emotional because after I flip out it just looks like they are right and that everyone is against them.

    I like the way you think garybuss . So if he is like , you want to do a study, I should be like no thanks? He brought me some book about revelations.. Im like why all yall focus on is the end of the world, how about living for now? And the pleasures you have today? I mean he about passed out when I started putting money into a 401 (k) plan.

    He isn’t reinstated yet, so I guess he might be celebrating xmas , but if he doesn’t, Im going to take my Pagan 800 bucks from my in laws and shop my butt off … Shame on me LMAO .. My marriage is very important to me , but so is my piece of mind, I would like to remain sane .. and my son a non witness .. soooo ..

    I remember one time he was talking about when he was a witness in good standing and he was like I was in charge of the audio system .. with this big ol proud smile on his face, im like, wow , is that a big deal or something ???

    Thanks for the advice !

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    Look for two videos to buy or rent.
    1). The Wave. http://www.xenutv.com/us/wave.htm

    2). Ticket to Heaven (1981) Starring: Nick Mancuso, Saul Rubinek Director:

    Ticket to Heaven

    Don't let the JW see them.

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