by silentlambs 45 Replies latest watchtower scandals
Bill,
As you're a former Elder I trust in your decisions and choice of language in this matter. Excellent advice and comments have been given to which I can not add. My only suggestion is to remain in prayer over the whole deal.
Keep us up to date on what they say, how they respond. THANKS for doing what is right, it's not always popular.
YERUSALYIM
"Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
[Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"]
The more that I read these posts, the more that I agree with removing the snakes comment. Keep it business like and formal. No cheap shots.
Slipnslidemaster:"The average person thinks he isn't."
- Father Larry Lorenzoni
Hello everyone,
Here's what I'm thinking.
For those of you who are concerned about the "snakes" comment, please remember that Bill is not talking to virtual strangers in Brooklyn, he knows these "yahoos."
They are not his superiors and they obviously have no respect for him or any thing he says anyway. They deserve to be called snakes and a whole lot more!!
Did Jesus loose credibility when he called the Pharisees "Vipers",and whitewashed graves etc?
He called them what they were and Bill is doing the same.
Please understand this was only an example. I'm not trying to say Bill is a modern day Jesus.
We say things to people we know and have had many experiences with that we wouldn't to someone else.
Next thing on my mind is that I agree that they are angry and are looking for anything to nail him on.
Believe me when I say that if they DF or DA him for any reason they will suffer much more than he ever would!
Yes, Bill loves playing the game and I think he's ready to take it to another level.
Don't be too upset if they DF him.
This is gonna be good no matter what!
Ranchette
Hi Bill,
I'll just add my two cents worth - I think that getting a restraining order against them may be an excellent idea since they have ignored your previous written requests. You have to escalate the threat level.
Secondly, I think the idea that you should have a microcassette recorder with you at all times (with spare batteries) is a good one. Radio Shack has some nice ones. You would want to inform people at the start of the recording that you will be recording their conversation and record their acknowledgement of that fact. This won't sit well with the "elders," but (as you so well know) you are not obligated to play by their rules: make them play by your rules.
Once you begin recording, I think the first question to ask them would be if they've received your earlier certified letters. Allow for a reply, then ask "why are you disregarding my clearly stated request that all communication should be in writing?"
I have a question. Did you know the two elders that tried to visit you? How do you know they were there to harass you? Are you not assuming bad motives when you did not even give those two guys a chance to speak? You know, not everything is a conspiracy and not all elders and witnesses out to get you. I believe you are a bit paranoid. Calm down dude.
Bless you, Silentlambs. You are doing God's work. I agree with the points made by others about a restraining order. Do other people who live in your community know there is a child molester in their midst?
Yoyomama,
Are your comments for real?
If so, you dont know about Silentlamb's life. He has asked that communication be in writing. They should respect that.
Have some empathy and realise you dont know anything about his situation.
Sirona
EXCELLENT work SL. I think that it is high time that these men were called on their own games and shown that they don't always win. Even if this leads to them df'ing you eventually, it has become public enough that people who have seen it will think twice about the WT and their policies. Good luck!! We are so very proud that you are taking a stand for what is right and good.
TW
The Society should be forced, whenever possible, to communicate
in writing. Every confrontation with elders should be limited
to written material. This acts as a strong deterent against
their habit of deception - and increases the threat of legal
action.
I believe the "Pay Attention" book contains some reference
to elders communicating by letter, as a judicial committee
examining the accused. JT is right, of course, that they are
corrupt and will rewrite the rules whenever they feel like.
However, I would assume that if they are trying to meet with you
then they have something up their sleeves, collectively.
metatron
Greetings Bill:
Off the bat, I truly respect your fortitude in this matter. I do have a question: It is evident that a "standoff" exists regarding your status as a JW in your congregation. What is your plan for closure in this matter? Do you see yourself DA in the future? Or do you intend to patch things up and continue as a JW?
Your comments would be appreciated
Erasmus (1520 AD): "If we want truth, every person ought to be free to speak what they think without fear."
