I'm Happy to Live in a Christian Nation (page 4)

joelbear69

I am happy to live in a secular nation.

If this was a Christian nation as in
following the example of Christ, I wouldn't
have a problem with that either, actually
that would be great, but it ain't gonna
happen.

If this was a Christian nation as defined
by people who claim to be Christians today.
Whoa, what a demented place this would be.

M.J.

I love this nation. But I must say that article is filled with hasty generalizations among a whole bunch of fallacious argumentation, as in appeal to emotion, appeal to ridicule, etc. The sort of argumentation you hear from a crazed college sports fan rambling about the rival school.

Check out this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Christian-Nation-Political-Destroying/dp/0310267315/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198270678&sr=8-1

It's called "The Myth of a Christian Nation". It's an interesting Christian perspective. One that doesn't get much press.

Zico

"The difference between non-believer posts and believer posts is that generally: the non-believer posts are FYI and the believer posts are "this is the right way to think and the rest of you are awful people". Just my observation on the matter."

You would think that, you're a non-believer!

I find it amusing you say this, as I've read recent posts from believers calling non-believers arrogant, and intolerant. My observations have led me to think there's far less difference between the non-believer's and believer's approach to debate than each side seems to think there is (generally!)

onacruse

BTS:

technically the USA is a secular nation because spiritually it is a Christian nation.

And exactly how do you make that connection?

A non sequitor if ever I've seen one.

Why not therefore:

technically Iraq is a secular nation because spiritually it is a Islamic nation.

or:

technically India is a secular nation because spiritually it is a Hindu nation.

wednesday

I like what he said and agree . Religion can be a huge pain in the arse.

Robdar

I'm happy that I live in a secular nation, so that if I want to, I can wipe my butt with pages torn from the Bible. Praise the lord.

NomadSoul

But I don't see muslims going out in public and condeming such actions.

Gopher

NomadSoul, it's happening in some places. Look at this item from last year: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/811

Dozens of Danish Muslims are joining the network of moderate Muslims, the Demokratiske Muslimer (Democratic Muslims). About 700 Muslims have already become DM members and 2,500 Danes have expressed their will to support the network. The initiative has caused anger among the Danish imams and their leader, Ahmad Abu Laban, who have referred to the moderates as “rats.” The imams feel that they are beginning to lose their control over part of the Muslim population.
Moderates such as Kamran Tahmasebi say they have had enough of fanatic Islamism and its intimidation of the Muslim immigrants in Denmark. “It is an irony that I am today living in a European democratic state and have to fight the same religious fanatics that I fled from in Iran many years ago,” Mr Tahmasebi says. He came to Denmark as a refugee in 1989. Today he works as a social consultant and is very grateful for the life Denmark has made it possible for him to have. He says he no longer wants to keep a low profile to avoid attracting the attention of the imams. The cartoon affair was an incentive for him to stand up and warn against the Islamist imams in Denmark, whom he says are damaging the integration process with their misleading criticism of Danish values and norms.
Mr Tahmasebi is one of the people involved in the newly established network of moderate Muslims in Denmark led by Naser Khader, a member of the Danish Parliament. He says he is well aware of the risk he is taking by siding with Mr Khader, who has for a long time been living under police protection. But Mr Tahmasebi feels it is his duty to take part in this debate. “Naser Khader has carried this responsibility for too long. I share his beliefs and now I want to stand up and say so. Apart from that, as a parent I feel a responsibility to fight, so that my children will not have to live under Islamist dogmas. They shall be able to live free in this country.” Mr Tahmasebi adds that he believes the imams are one of the biggest problems Denmark is facing today.
The Danish Prime Minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, will be meeting the leaders of the moderate Muslims today (February 13) to discuss the cartoon affair. The Danish government has suspended all dialogue and cooperation with the Danish imams on the integration process. Some of the strongest protests against the twelve Muhammad cartoons came from imams who are members of the government’s official integration think tank.

NomadSoul

Sad to see just a few numbers. What I'm surprised is that here in America you don't see it.

hillary_step

NomadSoul,

What I'm surprised is that here in America you don't see it.

http://www.asmasociety.org/home/

Take a look at this site. Listen to the video. Read the inserts. There are many Muslims working toward building bridges between communities. Islam is a very inflexible ideology in many ways and one must salute the courage of these people who grouping together so that their voices might be heard in the noisy chattering and bigotry that exists on both sides of this issue.

HS

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