Are witnesses only interested in the prize?

by Abandoned 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Gopher: Yep, it's the carrot. That's one of the things that got me, actually. I just couldn't believe I was loved while chasing a carrot.

    R. Crusoe: Excellent point. Are we showing love for God if we serve him to see our dead loved ones?

    erynw: That's true, nobody would put up with the amount of dysfunction if you didn't think you were going to get something for it.

    VoidEater: That bothered me a lot. I can count the people I felt went in service out of compassion on one hand. Most seemed convinced the people had already made up their minds.

    changeling: I think a lot of people continue even when they sense something is up because they don't want to consider how many years they spent in futility.

    monophonic: Yep, "Hey, I love you. What, you don't believe me? Well you better believe me or I'm going to destroy you at Armageddon."

    flipper: Thanks buddy. You are sooooooo right. Name one witness who would take part in field service without the belief that Armageddon was iminent. And why would they? Everyone who dies before Armageddon, for the most part, gets a resurrection of the unrighteous.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    shopaholic: Good point. The elders are very quick to remind the "friends" that we are not supposed to be "friendly".

  • juni
    juni

    good question T...

    That's the base difference I feel between being spiritual and religious. Being in touch w/your spiritual side (however you decide to do that) rewards a person w/peace of mind; religion holds out "rewards" based on a proscribed set of followed manmade rules/doctrines.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Juni: Excellent description of the difference between being religious and spiritual. BTW, how are you doing?

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    It always seemed odd to me that sometimes the bOrg would remind us that we're not just serving for a reward, and we're not just serving for a date. Yet, most of the time they kept reminding us what the reward was and how soon the end was coming. In conclusion I'd like to ask, "Where's my freakin' pet tiger that I was supposed to get back in 1975?"

    P.S.: I would have included WT and KM quotes about the 'reward' and 'date' thing, but hey? What's in it for me to look up that crap? Ya gonna send me to eternal bliss in paradise or something?

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Every Jehovah`s Witness wants the prize!!...............1st Place1st Place.............What they don`t know is the only thing the WBT$ can offer is a Wasted Life..Window CleaningWindow CleaningAll PraiseSweepingSweeping.................And..In the end..To be used as a Prop,for a WBT$ Infomercial..CoffinCoffin........................Laughing Mutley...OUTLAW

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    They are always talking about the prize. They liken it to a race where the runners are supposed to highly train for it. They are supposed to spend years doing things to get ready for that one big day, and then go all out to win the race. The field misery is compared to this: they want everyone to prepare for it and participate as if they were going to win only if they came in first place.

    Then there are all the rules. In a race, the rules are intended to keep things fair for all contestants. The Watchtower rules only serve to maximize the gain for the Tower and the loss to the participants. Break one, and you lose the prize. All this suggests to the average witless that, unless they are going all out, they are going to die. And including dying for lingering at the Kingdumb Hell before getting out in field circus (comparable to lingering at the start line at a race) or taking a coffee break or warming up while out (like taking a break in the race).

    What they don't tell you is that it's the race itself that is unfair. In a real race, everyone knows exactly where the finish line is. You cross it, you are done. The path is clearly marked. It may be difficult to follow at times, but everyone knows ahead of time exactly the path. The Watchtower race, however, keeps changing. There is no clear finish line. The path and the rules keep changing. The race is therefore unwinnable, since the finish line keeps getting moved back. Sort of like thinking you are in a 100 yard/meter dash only to find out that the finish line keeps getting moved farther. So you waste the energy sprinting the first 100 yards, and having to run the whole race at sprinting speed. No marathon runner ever wins doing that (otherwise, the 2 hour mark would be cake). Likewise, no one is going to win the Watchtower race.

    I have noticed that, when I likened the race to a long distance race instead of a 50 yard dash, the hounders kept hounding me to sprint as if the finish line was only 50 yards ahead. And they are still in, wasting their time going to a finish line--that is not there. I wonder what they are going to do when they find out, too late, that they have been going the wrong way all these years--and trying to hound me to also go the wrong way.

  • FreudianSlip
    FreudianSlip

    My guess is that all theists are focused on "the prize".

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    All along the way to the PRIZE things are constantly changing.

    God help them when they get there -OOPS did we say you will live forever?

    Did you really think only the wicked would be bird food?

    Did you really think that psychopathic genocide was just a part of Jehoobies plan? Now go forth to the Andromeda Galaxy and slaughter the squatters...

    Bet the rug will be pulled from under them all PRONTINTO.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    HB

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    I think witnesses are interested in several things. Anyone ONLY interested in the prize would have already faded.

    I think that most are interested in four things that wax and wane in importance depending on where they are in their lives at the time.

    1. The prize
    2. Social interaction
    3. Being proved right
    4. Revenge

    The JW's are by and large a very hateful organization. If you look at their beliefs there is no love. However they are very interested in rubbing peoples noses in that fact that they were right the whole time and everyone else in the world was wrong. Listen to them talk in service about "one day after this person DIES in Armageddon I'll come live in this house."

    Or "all these experts with their college degrees, just wait till armageddon and THEN they will see who was right this whole time!"

    I mean think about the mean spiritedness of your average Sunday talk...

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