Bible Error: Where Did King Josiah Die?

by JosephAlward 15 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    What contradiction about Goliath, Holy Cow man, where have you been. in 1 SAM 17 DAVID kills Goliath, right? In 2 Sam 21:19 Elhanan, son of Jair for Bethlehem is the one who slew Goliath (this guy I think, was numbered among David's 30, and this happened well into the Kingship of David. Some protestant bibles I've read insert the word "the brother of" in front of Goliath. I think it's just another example of two different traditions.

    YERUSALYIM
    "Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
    [Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"]

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Joe, You not in today?

    YERUSALYIM
    "Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
    [Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"]

  • JosephAlward
    JosephAlward

    Yeru,

    You are right; there is a contradiction, but I'm inclined to believe that it's not about whether the young David--or someone else--killed the giant Goliath; it's about who a warrior named "Elhanan" killed.

    1 Samuel 17 tells us that a young David is sent against the nine-foot Goliath by King Saul; this is the story we're all familiar with.

    1 Chronicles 20:5 tells about battle that occurred after David had become king, and therefore after the young David slew Goliath in 1 Samuel. In this later battle we're told that a warrior named Elhanan killed Lahmi the brother of Goliath. So far, so good. The problem comes when one reads that "Elhanan…killed Goliath…" in 2 Samuel 21:1-19. Thus, the contradiction need not be over the name of the person who killed Goliath, as Yeru suggested, but over who Elhanan killed.

    We can either believe that the Bible is wrong because it tells us the young David killed Goliath in 1 Samuel, while in 2 Samuel we're told the Elhanan killed Goliath, or else we can believe simply that the transcriber of the verse in 2 Samuel inadvertently left out the words "Lahmi the brother of ." I think the latter is far more likely. But, either way, there's clearly a contradiction, as Yeru said.

    Joseph F. Alward
    "Skeptical Views of Christianity and the Bible"
    http://members.aol.com/jalw/joseph_alward.html

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Sooo, you don't think the writer of 1 Samuel was trying to give credit for the death of Goliath to King David? Still, all this does kinda debunk the EVERY WORD IS TRUE folks.

    YERUSALYIM
    "Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
    [Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"]

  • JosephAlward
    JosephAlward

    Yeru asks, " Sooo, you don't think the writer of 1 Samuel was trying to give credit for the death of Goliath to King David ?"

    No, that's not what I think; you must have misread my post.

    Joseph F. Alward
    "Skeptical Views of Christianity and the Bible"
    http://members.aol.com/jalw/joseph_alward.html

  • YERU2
    YERU2

    What's your read on Jesus sighting Abiathar as the High Priest when King David ate the Shew bread? Personally, I think Jesus misspoke. But there are other possible responses.

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