well it should tell this person something if he is looking up old friends and they are no longer JW's, Are they trying to be a one man JW army, or just counting time via internet?
I need your help responding to my old JW friends email
by student1 42 Replies latest jw friends
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primitivegenius
i have also determind that the facebook site is a curse, whenever i click on friends from the past, they are no longer witnesses?? what is going on..
theres a sign for you........... people are seeing the religion (CULT) for what it is and leaveing in droves.
p.s you know what you said about brainwashing... well, arnt we all living in a big brother, ORSON WELLES ESK.. society already, is the world getting better? no, is it getting worse? yes..
yes and big brother is the governing body who rule because they claim to be annointed by holy spirit.......... question............ how can you PROVE that? wouldnt proof be OBVIOUS if they were truely blessed with gods powers............ wouldnt they be incapable of makeing mistakes? holy spirt would make their mistakes MINOR ......... 1975 wasnt minor............
i have also done alot of research as to why there has been a number of elders who have mismananged things, and some border hypocrisy, and often some are incorrect, also there have been governing body members who have stated armageddon would fall in 1975, as well as a number of other dates.. watchtowers directing to this also?? why i thort could this happen if it is inspired through them (the watchtower and awake)?? well.. we are all imperfect including them... new evidence is uncovered all the time, therefore certain thorts and explanations get adjusted such as with all scientific proven events.. murder trials.. years later uncover knew evidence, not that the people investigating were not knowlegeable enough, but that new things come to light... the word as a whole based on the scriptures has never changed, certainly some people, and writings, ideas since have ammended. yes. but overall, the pros out way the cons.the reasoning of such things reasons more so than anything else..
holy spirit would prevent all of that from happening.............. how can these elders....... who are supposedly appointed by holy spirit......... make HUGE mistakes............ touching little boys and the like......
new evidience would be superficial........... would tell you where a city actually stood or something minor that makes the scriptures clearer.......... not change a viewpoint ENTIRELY.............. generations for instance......... thats simply a cover your a$$......... ok everyones dieing....... or like 100 plus.......... and were no closer to the end............ lets change our mind. beyond that look at the flock book.......... thats a complete coverup. there is NO DIRECTION IN THERE.......... untill its written by hand so they can deny it came from the society. who is the first person they are supposed to call........... the LEGAL department.......... why...... arent these elders supposed to be HELPING the flock? no they just dont wanna be sued.
this fool is having his doubts....... hes not a strong dub or a strongly principled person(asking to see boobies and all) or he would flee her like the bible says about babylon the great......... to avoid shareing in her sins....... thats why I left.
whats good for the goose is good for the gander....... if they (wt) condemn other religions for something that they themselves are guilty of................. then they should equally be condemned.
fact is the cult follows the GB's words OVER the bibles............ when you go to the meetings WHAT do you study out of...............the bible? HELL NO....... you study out of watchtower publications that only use scriptures that seem to support their opinion of the hour. why do you think they STUDY THE SAME SCRIPTURES OVER AND OVER AND OVER........... cause if they covered ALL the bible it wouldnt support their viewpoints.
wait on jehovah.......... the problem is with you....... your not praying enough or attending all the meetings or going in service enough................ you get a magazine a week............ plus have to prepare for 5 meetings a week plus FS and Bible studies........... and you gotta read those publications you got at the DC....... and prayer....... oh and that little thing............ called read the bible daily............. all that is NOT designed to make you a better person......... its to keep you so damn busy you CANT think for yourself.........
and yet the bible praised that city where the people didnt take pauls words on their own.......... they looked up what he was saying........... to PROVE they were inspired and came from the bible........... yet we cant do the same and be approved.
if we question............. they NEVER answer the questions........ they instantly put you in the apostate category and kick you out ASAP.
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oneairhead
What the h*** is a "thort"!
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wanderlustguy
Did someone say boobies?
He's probably all about some microphone priviledges.
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Priest73
Tell him less "Thorting" and more "Thinking"
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lesterd
i have also done alot of research as to why there has been a number of elders who have mismananged things, and some border hypocrisy, and often some are incorrect, also there have been governing body members who have stated armageddon would fall in 1975, as well as a number of other dates.. watchtowers directing to this also?? why i thort could this happen if it is inspired through them (the watchtower and awake)?? well.. we are all imperfect including them...
Due 18: 20
"‘However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it.new evidence is uncovered all the time,
. Ecc 1: 9 That which has come to be, that is what will come to be; and that which has been done, that is what will be done; and so there is nothing new under the sun. 10 Does anything exist of which one may say: "See this; it is new"? It has already had existence for time indefinite; what has come into existence is from time prior to us. 11 There is no remembrance of people of former times, nor will there be of those also who will come to be later.
therefore certain thorts and explanations get adjusted such as with all scientific proven events.. murder trials.. years later uncover knew evidence, not that the people investigating were not knowlegeable enough, but that new things come to light... the word as a whole based on the scriptures has never changed, certainly some people, and writings, ideas since have ammended. yes. but overall, the pros out way the cons.the reasoning of such things reasons more so than anything else..He may point to the older beliefs as being englightened, but, by holding onto the core belief in 1914 the dubs dont see that the rules laws that applied then HAVE to apply NOW and they dont, its a lie.
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steve2
i have also done alot of research
There's only one thing worse that listening to an ignorant JW; listening to an ignorant JW who believes he's 'done a lot of research' and still believes it's the truth. Quite apart from his offensive, repressed sexual comments, he sounds terribly feeble in his defense of the organization.
Ignore him - until he produces solid evidence that he has at least a couple of normal firing neurons in that repressed brain of his. Otherwise, you're going to go crazy trying to reach him with reason.
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Shawn10538
The faCT THAT HE IS talking to you at all is a good thing. The fact that he made that sexual joke shows that in addition to not being that spiritual he is also a pig/chauvanist. Since he was the one to bring up Orwell, why not buy the book "The Orwellian world of Jehovah's Witnesses?"
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Hortensia
You could say "I'm offended. How dare you speak to me that way? What kind of person do you think I am? Jehovah's Witnesses are such scum. No one else ever speaks to me so disrespectfully or hits on me in the disgraceful way that you did. Don't ever call me again."
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mkr32208
WOOOPS! I didn't see that he was married! Is he STILL married? IF no keep reading! If yes.... Well YOU decide. I'm not all hung up on the "sanctity of marriage" but my views ain't your views if ya know what I means!
There are lots of different ways to do things in life. There is the "I'm going to try to reason with this guy" approach then there's "he's a perv don't deal with him" there's, simply ignore him... There are a lot of choices.
First off I don't agree that he's a perv. I'm going to guess from the first sentence that he's a fairly young guy (early 20's?) who was raised as a JW. Second guess, he likes you. As a JW he's been closeted all his damn life of COURSE he's immature of COURSE he's a boob (1st boob pun) when it comes to sex. To expect anything else is idiotic. Cut him some slack.
So the issue is how to deal with him. Do you like him at all? Do you want to "save him?" You do understand if you DON'T like him that you should simply say "I'm happy, your happy, have a great life and remember me fondly but please don't contact me again,,, ok?" Otherwise you'll never get rid of him...
If you DON'T say that and manage to get him out you are going to have this guy panting after you for the rest of your life... If you like him then that's great if not... Well, less great!
Ok I'm going forward assuming you DO want to get him out. We'll leave the relationship stuff to you guys.
First you CAN'T reason with 99% of JW's you have to shock them out of their stupeur first! So I offer the following advice. Take it in the spirit in which it was offered. (Which is rolling on the floor laughing about how much more fun girls get to have than guys!)
I'm gonna go with, show him your boobies first. Hang on hang on, all you naysayers out there need to think this through! I'm one of the few people who has successfully avoided being Df'ed in the face of complete and total apostasy so my opinions DO count for something!
Outrageous conduct, statements, and actions DO work MUCH more often than you would think because they ARE so far out in left field!
If he's miffed and you send him some apostate letter or info he's very likely to do what? Run straight to the elders! However what if you put him in a position that if he runs to the elders he ALSO BUST (ha pun #2) HIMSELF?
See what I mean? Show him your boobs. I mean really, it's just skin for crying out loud! I'm not saying have sex with him but sure show him some skin. Then you have him over a barrel! First you have a captive audience cause he's gonna want to see them again (he is a guy) and second he can't go to the elders without getting (at the very least) public reproof. If he's ALSO been reading and looking at apostate stuff for the chance to see more breast? Yeah he's getting df'ed for sure.
Now here's the rub, if he gets df'ed over YOUR boobs I think he's going to feel entitled to a relationship of some kind. So if you see him heading for dfing your going to have to shut his butt down asap! Or face a lifetime of panting!!!
Trust me, you have to think way outside the box to beat the witnesses. Their beliefs are so outrageous that to beat them you have to be MORE outrageous not LESS! Logic and reasoning go woop... Right out the window! So don't try to reason or use logic you use entrapment and absurdity and you have a chance. Before meeting with the elders or doing anything think "what would the cat in the hat do?"