Is It Entrapment?

by minimus 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • momzcrazy
    momzcrazy

    Yes. Who would have thought naked boobs could play in the park? Why not naked penises?

    momz

  • minimus
    minimus

    Evidently this woman wasn't a cop but the cops used her to get this guy.

  • veen
    veen

    As a general rule, law and order is a joke in the U.S. anyway. Just the way it seems to me.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Hey, I'm in the area right now and I have one question, which city park was that?

  • SacrificialLoon
    SacrificialLoon

    If she were just out there sunbathing and that guy just came along and whipped it out, then I think they'd have a case against him, but she did apparently flirt with him and ask him to show her his penis.

    I think that during prostitution stings the decoy isn't allowed to outright ask for money in exchange for sex, the perpetrator has to initiate it. This seems to be along the lines of a prostitution decoy asking for money in exchange for a sexual favor first.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Firefighter charged with indecency near topless woman was entrapped, attorney says

    Monday, November 12, 2007 10:42 PM By Jodi Andes The Columbus Dispatch

    A Columbus firefighter charged with exposing himself in a city park went on trial today, but his attorney said the charge was a police trap.

    Robin Garrison, 42, was charged with public indecency, a misdemeanor, after Columbus police said he exposed his genitals to a woman in Berliner Park on May 20.

    In opening arguments, Garrison's attorney, Sam Shamansky, argued that police set up a sting around a woman who had been sunbathing topless in the park for days.

    "Columbus police utilized this topless woman to snare this man," Shamansky said. "He sees her day after day. He's not some seedy pervert."

    Assistant City Prosecutors Michael Allbritain and Stephen Steinberg showed jurors a videotape of the encounter.

    The footage was black and white, and taken from a distance because the camera lacked a zoom lens, Vice Sgt. Stan Latta testified.

    On the day Garrison was charged, he was off duty but in his Columbus Division of Fire uniform.

    The footage shows him sitting near the woman, under a tree, and the two talking for several minutes. At one point, the woman puts her foot on his shoulder. Though she was supposed to be sunbathing, she appears to be sitting in the shade.

    The tape does not include audio, so it's unclear what was said, but during the exchange Garrison unzips his pants and exposes himself.

    Shamansky said Garrison saw the woman for days as he drove past Berliner Park.

    "She asks to see his penis and, like a fool, he does it," Shamansky said.

    Detective Dick Elias said vice officers had set up the video because they were targeting men who were having sex or masturbating in the park — not men who had come to see her.

    The woman had been sunbathing topless near the front of the park for days, he said, and "had become a spectacle" with men driving by to watch.

    It is legal for women to be topless in Columbus.

    So Elias asked the woman to move to the rear of the park, which she did. But men still drove by to see her. Another man, whose name wasn't mentioned, was charged the same afternoon as Garrison for exposing himself to the woman.

    The Fire Division moved Garrison, of Woodbridge Lane in Baltimore, to a desk job after he was charged, Division spokesman Battalion Chief Doug Smith said.

    The trial before Judge Michael Brandt continues Tuesday in Franklin County Municipal Court.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Bloody ridiculous.

    The cops should be given desk jobs until they have had counceling.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Entrapment.

    Like the agents that stand in public urinals tempting other men who may not otherwise take up the offer.

    MEANWHILE old ladies are being strangled and robbed right outside in the same park.

    HB

  • Forscher
    Forscher

    In answer to the one who asked why a woman can be topless in a public park,

    It goes back to equal treatment of the sexes. For many years now it has been legal for men to go topless in public while women are not allowed. In New York some time back feminist activist to the government to court over that one on the grounds that it was unconstitutional discriminatory to permit men to go topless and require women to cover up. It went all the way to the New York State Supreme Court.......where the feminists won.

    The usual argument, which prevailed for many years, was that women's bare breasts were somehow more titillating for men to view than male's chests were for women. Thus it was reasoned that the display of bare female breasts in public should be forbidden because they aroused men inappropriately, and were thus obscene. Anticipating that argument, the feminists' lawyers provided a scientific study before the courts which documented that the arousal of women's libido by the sight bare mens' breasts was just as profound as the sight of bare womens' breasts was for men. that, of course, placed the courts in the unenviable position of either banning the the exposure of all breasts, regardless of sex , or permitting the exposure of womens' breasts in public as well as mens'. They opted for the latter with the proviso that women thus exposing themselves had to do so in a fashion which could not be considered lascivious (i.e. swing them around in a fashpin calculated to arouse the passion of onlookers, like strippers as stripper often do, etc.).

    Any ladies care to comment on the veracity, or lack thereof, of the study's conclusions?

    Forscher

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Minimus,

    Yes, this is very probably entrapment unless this person was being sought after for more serious sexual crimes and this was a scenario established just for his benefit. It seems from the report that this may have been the case. Then it could be justified as he can be pulled for questioning about other matters.

    What this incident does prove however, is just how stupid many men are. Their moral compass is set by the direction their penis points in.

    HS

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