Stagflation is here!

by 5go 29 Replies latest social current

  • 5go
    5go

    To Burn the reason stagflation hit us in the 1970 was because Nixon racked up debt paying for the Vietnam war, and then the french called in the debt do to their own problems back home. The french needed gold and the french reserve had US dollars. At that time a national reserve could exchange US dollars for gold but the french reserve had more dollars than the US had gold. So Nixon just signed an order forbidding the exchange. That was the beginning of the end of the American empire. The US declared bankruptcy that day and the Republicans and US capitalist have hated the french since.

    Because Nixon destroyed the dollar's value no nation would exchange dollars for anything and the US economy started to crash. OPEC latter as a deal to import oil into the US agreed to forbid the trading of oil in any currency other the US dollar. Which restored the US dollars value and gave the US the ability to rack up even huger debt without problem as long as OPEC traded only in US dollars other countries had to use dollar to buy oil.

    Not any more OPEC has now started trading in all currencies. Which is the reason I am comparing it the the Wiemar Republic the US is running the presses to devalue the dollar, so they can pay their war debts off easier before the crash of the dollar happen do to this recent development. Which is the same reason the Wiemar Republic did it, and Milton Friedman suggested it be done in the US. It worked in Friedman's opinion the only problem was Hitler himself. If another dictator friendly to the US capitalist had gained power it would of been perfect.

    In example read about Chile, Friedman, and Pinochet.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    To Burn the reason stagflation hit us in the 1970 was because Nixon racked up debt paying for the Vietnam war, and then the french called in the debt do to their own problems back home.

    There is a hell of a lot more to it than that.

    In example read about Chile, Friedman, and Pinochet.

    I know about the Chilean economic miracle. What point are you trying to make?

    Burn

  • 5go
    5go

    I know about the Chilean economic miracle. What point are you trying to make?

    Burn

    What miracle the Chilean government is failing apart at the bottom. Just like most US backed south American countries the people are fed up with their resources being sold to the US at a bargain when they need the resources themselves.

    Social Consequences

    The economic policies espoused by the Chicago Boys and implemented by the junta "initially" caused several economic indicators to decline for Chile's lower classes. Between 1970 and 1989 , there were large cuts to incomes and social services. Wages decreased by 8%. Family allowances in 1989 were 28% of what they had been in 1970 and the budgets for education, health and housing had dropped by over 20% on average [4] . The massive increases in military spending and cuts in funding to public services coincided with falling wages and steady rises in unemployment, which averaged 26% during the worldwide economic slump of 1982–1985 [5] and eventually peaked at 30%.

    The economy grew rapidly from 1976 to 1981, fueled by the influx of private foreign loans until the debt crisis of the early 1980s. But despite high growth in the late 1970s, income distribution became more regressive. While the upper 5% of the population received 25% of the total national income in 1972, it received 50% in 1975. Wage and salary earners got 64% of the national income in 1972 but only 38% at the beginning of 1977. Malnutrition affected half of the nation's children, and 60% of the population could not afford the minimum protein and food energy per day. Infant mortality increased sharply. [citation needed]

    The junta's economics also hurt the Chilean small business class. Decreased demand, lack of credit, and monopolies engendered by the regime pushed many small and medium size enterprises into bankruptcy. The curtailment of government expenditures created widespread white-collar and professional unemployment.

    The junta relied on force, the oligarchy, huge foreign corporations, and foreign loans to maintain itself. Under Pinochet, funding of military and internal defence spending rose 120% from 1974 to 1979. Due to the reduction in public spending, tens of thousands of employees were fired from other state-sector jobs. [6] The oligarchy recovered most of its lost industrial and agricultural holdings, for the junta sold to private buyers most of the industries expropriated by Allende's Popular Unity government. This period saw the expansion of monopolies and widespread speculation.

    Financial conglomerates became major beneficiaries of the liberalized economy and the flood of foreign bank loans. Large foreign banks received large sums in repayments of interest and principal from the junta; in return, they lent the government millions more. International lending organizations such as the World Bank, the IMF, and the Inter-American Development Bank lent vast sums. Foreign multinational corporations such as International Telephone and Telegraph (ITT), Dow Chemical, and Firestone, all expropriated by Allende, returned to Chile.

    Following the restoration of Chilean democracy and during the successive administrations that followed Pinochet, the Chilean economy has prospered, and today the country is considered a Latin American success story. Unemployment stands at 8.5% as of 2003, with poverty estimated at 20.6% for 2000, both relatively low for the region. [1]

    Supporters of Pinochet's economic policies contend that the three successive administrations following him contributed to this success by maintaining and continuing the reforms initiated by the junta, but opponents have criticized the neoliberal policies enacted by the junta.

    The "Chilean Variation" is still seen by many [attribution needed] as the potential model for nations that fail to achieve significant economic growth. The latest is Russia, for whom David Christian warned in 1991 that "dictatorial government presiding over a transition to Capitalism seems one of the more plausible scenarios, even if it does so at a high cost in human rights violations" [18] .

    On Pinochet's 91st birthday in 2006, in a public statement to supporters, Pinochet for the first time claimed to accept "political responsibility" for what happened in Chile under his regime, though he still defended his 1973 coup against Salvador Allende. In a statement read by his wife Lucia Hiriart, he said, Today, near the end of my days, I want to say that I harbour no rancour against anybody, that I love my fatherland above all. ... I take political responsibility for everything that was done [19] . Despite this statement, Pinochet always refused to be confronted to Chilean justice, claiming that he was senile. He died in 2006 without having being judged.

    Chile has a dynamic market-oriented economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. During the early 1990s, Chile's reputation as a role model for economic reform was strengthened when the democratic government of Patricio Aylwin - which took over from the military in 1990 - deepened the economic reform initiated by the military government. Growth in real GDP averaged 8% during the period 1991-1997, but fell to half that level in 1998 because of tight monetary policies implemented to keep the current account deficit in check and because of lower export earnings - the latter a product of the global financial crisis. Chile's economy has since recovered and has seen growth rates of 5-7% over the past several years. In 2006, Chile became the country with the highest nominal GDP per capita in Latin America [1] . Even though the exceptional Chilean economic results, when measured exclusively by the GNP indicators (a gauge that does not adequately depict the social depth of economic wellbeing) the Chilean economy income distribution has been extremely poor. Chile ranks 80th among the coutries on the list of income distribution, being the fourth in Latin America (behind Brazil, Paraguay and Colombia) and ranking, on that important indicator, behind much poorer African coutries such as Zambia, Nigeria and Malawi.

  • 5go
    5go

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148

    The war on democracy! It has abunch of stuff on Chile.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Some analysts divide the neoliberal economic experiments of Chile in two distinct phases: the "First Miracle" (1973- 82), that ended when the fixed exchange rate policy failed and led to the depression of 1982, and the "Second Miracle" (1985-89), which occurred after the devaluation initiated [citation needed] an export-led boom which brought an end to the depression.

    Led by young, free-market policy makers, Pinochet's government privatized almost every nationalized industry, from mines to factories to pension system. He welcomed foreign investment and eliminated protectionist trade barriers, forcing Chilean businesses to compete with imports on an equal footing, or else go out of business. [5]

    The reforms were coherent and drastic. They also effectively wiped out the entrenched right wing industrial oligarchy, which depended on strict trade protections and subsidies in order to maintain their economic (and therefore political) power. Since the free trade reforms were implemented in the mid 1970's, the economy has averaged 7-percent annual growth, raising per capita income for Chile's 16-million citizens to more than $10,000—making them the most prosperous people in South America--and creating a thriving middle class. Today; only 14% percent of the population lives below the poverty line, compared, for example, with 31 percent in Brazil and 62 percent in Bolivia[6] . At this pace, Chile, within a generation, will become Latin America's most prosperous nation. [7]

    Only one of the free market recommendations of El Ladrillo was not implemented: a floating exchange rate. Minister of Finance Sergio de Castro, departing from Friedman's well-known support for flexible exchange rates, decided on a fixed exchange rate of 39 pesos per dollar in June 1979, under the rationale of bringing Chile's rampant inflation to heel. The result, however, was that a serious balance-of-trade problem arose. Since the Chilean pesos inflation outpaced the U.S. dollars inflation, every year the Chilean foreign goods buying power increased, all fueled by foreign loans in dollars. When the bubble finally burst in late 1982, Chile slid into a severe recession that lasted more than two years.

    Though many claim to have been opposed to the policy from its inception, the public record does not bear this out. Indeed, up until the very end of the bubble, the fixed exchange rate policy was very popular within Chile, since it allowed consumers to go into debt in dollars and thus purchase foreign goods at discounted prices relative to the Chilean peso. When it became clear that the fixed exchange rate could not be maintained indefinitely, the peso was finally allowed to float in mid 1982. However, this devaluation was done so incompetently and belatedly—and at the exact moment that the United States, Chile's major creditor and trading partner, was going into a major recession—that it led to a fall in Chile's GDP of 20% during 1982 and 1983, resulting in widespread unemployment and the collapse of the financial sector. Unemployment spiked to 30 percent. Around 50 percent of the population fell below the poverty line. Extreme poverty affected 30 percent of the population. In his Memoirs ("Two Lucky People", 1998), Milton Friedman strongly criticized De Castro for this monumental mistake, making clear that it was contrary to the free market model.

    Remarkably, following the 1983 implosion, the Pinochet dictatorship did not abandon the free-market reforms of El Ladrillo. Though the recession had huge social and political costs to the junta, during 1983 and 1984, the government maintained a free-market, hands-off approach to the economy, refusing to reinstate tariffs or other trade barriers, and allowing major Chilean industries to fail, rather than propping them up artificially by means of subsidies or other preferential treatment.

    Former President Pinochet, under the advice of a group of Chilean economists who had mostly studied at the University of Chicago Department of Economics (the Chicago Boys), implemented a set of economic reforms that included deregulation and privatization. Among others, they privatized the pension system [9] , state industries, and banks, and reduced taxes. Pinochet's aim was to "make Chile not a nation of proletarians, but a nation of entrepreneurs." The main copper company, Codelco, remained in government hands due the nationalization of copper established by Salvador Allende, however, private companies were allowed to explore and develop new mines.

    Supporters of Friedman's view argue that subsequent events in Chile have vindicated his free market philosophy: Chile's economy is noticeably stronger and more advanced than those of other Latin American nations. Chile's annual growth in per capita real income from 1985 to 1996 averaged 7%, far above the rest of Latin America. [4]

    Chile had a strong economic recession in 1982-1983, its second in eight years (in 1975, when GDP fell by 13 per cent, industrial production plunged by 27 per cent, and unemployment shot up to 20 per cent). Real economic output declined by 19% just in 1982 and 1983 and most of the recovery and subsequent growth took place after Pinochet left office [1] While enacting certain changes, the four successive civilian administrations that followed Pinochet, including that of current Socialist president Michelle Bachelet have not done much to dismantle the changes.

    The experience of Chile in the 1970s and 1980s, and especially the export of the Chilean pension model by former Labor Minister Jose Pinera, has influenced the policies of the Communist Party of China and has been invoked as a model by economic reformers in other countries, such as Boris Yeltsin in Russia and almost all Eastern European post-Communist societies. [11]

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    New York Times, December 14, 1993

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE7D61F3EF937A25751C1A965958260

    Chile's Other Miracle

    Published: December 14, 1993

    Eduardo Frei Ruiz-Tagle easily won Chile's presidential election on Saturday. His effortless victory signals a remarkable political change for Latin America's economic pathbreaker.

    For decades, Chilean politics was split into three hostile camps -- Marxist left, conservative right and Christian center. After Salvador Allende, a Marxist, was elected President in 1970, the country went into political and economic meltdown. Desperate Christian Democrats and rightists hated Allende more than they loved democracy, opening the door to Gen. Augusto Pinochet's 1973 coup and the 16-year dictatorship that followed.

    But recently a broad consensus, including Mr. Frei's Christian Democrats, mainstream Socialists and much of the post-Pinochet right, has taken root. Free markets, democratic politics and special efforts to help the poor constitute its shared faith.

    A decade ago Chile became Latin America's economic pioneer, shedding bureaucracy and state ownership to achieve low inflation and export-driven growth. Even committed democrats concede General Pinochet some credit. After early economic stumbles, he offered his full support to reform.

    Other observers, less scrupulous about democracy, say Chile's economic miracle required a dictator tough enough to bulldoze opponents. Maybe. But Argentina achieved comparable reforms without sacrificing democracy or human rights.

    Once Chile's economic reforms succeeded, all its major democratic parties embraced them. Since 1990 an elected center-left Government led by President Patricio Aylwin, a Christian Democrat, has deepened that reform, reduced poverty and won broad support across the electorate.

    Mr. Frei's main domestic challenge will be to get rid of constitutional deformities like non-elected Senate seats and an army commander not accountable to elected officials. Internationally, Chile will join the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum in 1994 and will seek admission to the North American Free Trade Agreement as well.

    The Clinton Administration may well be wary of further Nafta debate. Yet Chile, now Latin America's premier economic and political success story, will present a powerful case.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    What miracle the Chilean government is failing apart at the bottom.

    I travel to South/Central America from time to time having family in several countries "down there".

    According to CIA stats, Chile would appear to have the smallest percentage of people below the poverty line. If Chile is "falling apart from the bottom", it would appear to have a better chance at mending the problem than the rest of the region, seeing the huge difference in the figure compared to the next country on the list.

    Impressive:

    Chile has a dynamic market-oriented economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. During the early 1990s, Chile's reputation as a role model for economic reform was strengthened when the democratic government of Patricio Aylwin - which took over from the military in 1990 - deepened the economic reform initiated by the military government. Growth in real GDP averaged 8% during the period 1991-1997, but fell to half that level in 1998 because of tight monetary policies implemented to keep the current account deficit in check and because of lower export earnings - the latter a product of the global financial crisis. Chile's economy has since recovered and has seen growth rates of 5-7% over the past several years. In 2006, Chile became the country with the highest nominal GDP per capita in Latin America [1] .

    Despite recent labour troubles, wages have on average risen faster than inflation over the last several years as a result of higher productivity, boosting national living standards. The share of Chileans with incomes below the poverty line — roughly $90/month for a family of four — fell from 46% of the population in 1987 to 14% in 2006.

    Worldbank statistics here.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Pinochet always refused to be confronted to Chilean justice , claiming that he was senile. He died in 2006 without having being judged.

    This is a canard. This is not a discussion on the merits or lack thereof of a dictatorship, but on the merits of a particular economic policy.

    Burn

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    The war on democracy! It has abunch of stuff on Chile.

    Friedman believed that that by promoting economic freedom in Chile, social and political freedom would follow. History demonstrates he was right.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    This thread seems to have become the Battle of the Cut 'N Pasters. Somewhere in that avalanche of paragraphs is a posters opinion. Seek and you will blind.

    HS

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