E-mail sent to JW family member

by dawg 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • cognac
    cognac

    btw, one other thing worth noting:

    The word "apostate" is not in the greek scriptures...

    If you would like me to break it down in Hebrew, let me know. It's just that we are under the "new covenant" right???

    But let me know...

  • moshe
    moshe

    Dawg , it is human nature to stay on a sinking ship until the water is up to your ass, before you get off. Since they can't see any suitable lifeboat available, they won't leave the KH. I suspect you family just hates to say that you were right all along and have to eat an entire humble pie. Deep down tbey have to know your arguments are making sense.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Great letter but what is your purpose for it? If it's for your own journey, more power to you, but if you are expecting them to respond with anything resembling reasonableness, I think you're going to be disappointed. I doubt they'll respond at all as they don't have anything to gain and plenty to lose. They already know you aren't buying their lies so why would they risk putting in writing something that could make someone else wake up.

    Good writing though. Primo logic!

    Edit: Oops, I thought you were sending this to headquarters, not your family. My reply probably doesn't apply then, but good luck.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Dawg, you are already on your path of straightforwardness, so the email can be good.
    I won't dissect the 3 questions, but as a JW fully assimilated, I could have taken them
    apart and felt like I actually examined the question and provided a WT answer. Of course,
    my WT answer would use flawed logic and assumed things that are not established.

    Any elder doing his job would tell your relative not to bother.

    Rock on, Dawg.

  • dawg
    dawg

    All of you are worthy of a better prepared response than I can give tonight... I'll repspond AM.

  • cognac
    cognac

    lol, Doug, your awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • dawg
    dawg

    Cognac, from what I read of your response, your a well read person, that will do you no good when talking to a JW becasue their minds aren't free.. it scares me a bit that you are so much better informed than the average JW... they won't know what the hell your talking about... by the way, that is the biggest obstickle to overcome... the person your talking to,their ignorance...thanks for that imput.

    Moshe-that part where you said-"they have to know you're making scense"... I feel the same way, you must keep trying and maybe it'll have results... thanks for the encouragement.

  • dawg
    dawg

    Yes, ABandonded, lets hope some of this sticks

    OTWO, that which you said about the elders, probebly true... maybe some of this will sink in.

  • cognac
    cognac

    Thanks Dawg!

    Anywho, that's why I can't wait to do a #4 talk!!! That way, I can say what the bible says about something and if they yell at me afterwards, I can say "Oh, sorry, I just went by what the bible says. But, seriously, that's what the bible said regarding such and such. Please, let me know from the bible where I am wrong so my mind can be set straight on the matter..."

    That's probably why I don't get into trouble (or haven't so far) because I don't argue about things that are not proven in the bible. Its a waste of my time. I just say, this is what the scriptures say on the matter. They have a hard time arguing with that... lol

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    Dawg: your doing great with john 6 i like to start at about verse 49 and go all the way to vs. 70. and i do it real slow. keep pointing out anyone that does not eat has no life. I kepp going back to where it says ANYONE AND EAT AND HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. ANYONE. I love to use rev. 7 also and ask very loudly where the hell does rev. 7 say only the 144000 are to eaqt the bread and wine. then I ask them what TRIBE OF ISREAL THE GB ARE FROM. I PRESS THIS TO TRHE MAX. I ALSO USE A RED letter bible when reading john 6 and make a big POINT THAT THE RED LETTERS IS WHEN JESUS IS TALKING. JESUS CLEARLY SAYS ANYONE CAN EAT THE BREAD AND HAVE LIFE... THEN I ask the jw's very sternly " who the hell you going to believe JESUS OR THE WTS. I make a big deal that PEOPLE THAT WORSHIP SATAN " SATANISTS" at their black masses, make a big deal putting the bread and wine on a plate and all reject jesus. as proof they worship satan. just like the jw's do. asw far is 1914 goes I use MATT; 28 VS 18-20 TO SHOW JESUS HAD KINGDOM POWER SINCE 2000 YEARS AGO. they can't get out of it. keep up the good work. john

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