The Problem with Atheism by Sam Harris (page 5)

5go

In addition to the previous post, I wanted to add - it's true many nihilists are atheist. It's not true that all atheists are nihilist.

BTW I fit the model right on as I started to give up on my Christian beliefs I started to get a nihilistic view of the world "This world and life is ilrelevant so do what I need to do to make good with god somehow no matter the cost I always have the promise of a new life". Then I became more of an atheist and then more skeptical more less nihilistic. Many Christians also live nihilistic lives do to Jesus redemption of sins concept. They think I am redeemed so I can do what ever to get you or others to believe or stop saying things I think would cause other to cease believing. When you confront them on how that doesn't sound very christ like they say "Don't like my method FU I am saved with the promise redemption from my god". They think sins in this life don't effect the after life because the are redeemed and that's it. Not like what other religions teach in which you may end up a worm in the next life because of wrongs in order to purify your soul. A very nihilistic view very much like the one some angry christian posters on this board hold.

BurnTheShips

5g0,

Your posts are an abject study in grammatical and logical nihilism.

serotonin_wraith

Well I'm flicking through this thread, and I didn't have anything to add, until I noticed my old friend Burn The Ships had used the faulty 'atrocious acts in the name of atheism' argument again. Sir, have I not already debunked that pile of rubbish to the point where you had no response? Why are you starting up the engine on that again? To try and trick people who don't know the counter argument? Please don't be so dishonest. Try and learn things from these conversations, don't stick to the same position you had before you joined the forums. You are allowed to change your mind, you know.

BurnTheShips

Sir, have I not already debunked that pile of rubbish to the point where you had no response?

You have done no such thing sweettits.

Burn

serotonin_wraith

Not unless your picture of waffles was the knock down response.

Or a metaphor of the real response, as you're so fond of them.

I think I'll start a thread on it tomorrow with all the points laid out for you and anyone else. I'm fed up of people repeating mistakes.

5go

5g0,
Your posts are an abject study in grammatical and logical nihilism.

You are yet again failing to practice what you preach. Also you are proving the point further.

marmot

I've avoided the atheism moniker so far precisely because of all the associated baggage.

My big beef is with believers who advocate one belief system over another. Believe what you want but DO NOT persist in attempting to influence me or other people into accepting your view, or even bitching about what you do or do not consider acceptable. Believe what you want but shut the hell up.

Religion isn't bad, it's forcing your religious views on others that is evil. This includes your children, BTW. They should be allowed to investigate as many belief systems as they want and settle on whichever one they choose.

BurnTheShips

I think I'll start a thread on it tomorrow with all the points laid out for you and anyone else. I'm fed up of people repeating mistakes.

I look forward to being educated. It is good to know humility is part of your makeup.

BurnTheShips

This includes your children, BTW. They should be allowed to investigate as many belief systems as they want and settle on whichever one they choose.

My children will be educated by me in the manner I choose until they are of age to choose for them selves. You will have no say in the matter. You will shut up and take it.

marmot

I've seen videos of four-year-old muslim kids repeating by rote messages of vile hatred for Jews, but in your view this should be a protected right because it's in the Quran?

Or does the right to inculcate children in belief systems only extend to your particular brand of Christianity?

The Problem with Atheism by Sam Harris

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