Be Faithful Like Job C.O. talk

by moomanchu 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    JW relatives are bustin my balls again they just can't leave me alone.

    I wrote my reply at the end. I'll take some more ammo if anybody want to offer some.

    I'm starting to let it hang out to the dubs, because I'm getting tired of this b.s.

    My dad says I'm an aprostate LOL. (that's the way he spelled it)

    WHATEVER

    Job's Wife (Job Chapters 1 & 2)

    At the Circuit Overseer's visit, he gave a talk and it was centered on being tired/weary. We are so tired in this day and age and the brother mentioned Jeremiah and how after being put in stocks for just one day, he was complaining and cursing the man that announced his birth and wishing that he had died in his mom's womb. Why? He was tired.

    Then he asked what comes to mind when you think of Job's wife. Most people think of her telling Job to curse god and die (Job 2:9). The Circuit Overseer asks why wasn't she rebuked with the three 'so-called' comforters? It was brought out that Job's wife was tired.. Probably more tired that you can imagine......

    Think of this:

    When the messengers told Job that he had lost all his livestock, Job's wife lost hers too.
    When Job was told that he had lost all his land and material goods, Job's wife lost hers too.
    When the messengers told Job that he had lost all his children, Job's wife lost hers too.
    The children that you carried for 9 months, bonded with as you breast-fed each and everyone of them, watched them grow up and stand tall, only to lose them all at once violently. Was she tired? ....Yes!

    Then, to make matters worse, (if they could get any worse), Your husband mysteriously and suddenly develops huge boils all over his body that are open and oozing pus and stink. You watch as the man you love, the father of your children, cracks a pottery jar and begins to dig and scratch himself in order to alleviate some of the pain, but to no avail.

    This man, who has been all that to you, is staying away because his breath is so bad that no one can stand it. And you can only sit by helpless, without any explanation for anything. Do you want to continue to see him suffer or would you too want him to die? Most o f us would want a loved one out of their misery. So when Job's wife said curse God and die, she wasn't being disloyal to Jehovah, she wanted her husband's misery to be over. It was an act of love. She was tired!!

    In the end, not only was she not reproved but, she was blessed with everything that Job received, more children, more wealth and a healthy husband.

    There are times when, due to our health problems either physical, or mental, that we are not doing all that we feel that we should. Once I was in such a state. A young friend asked me if I considered Job a faithful man?
    Of course, I said, 'oh yes!' Then she lovingly pointed out, that at one time, all Job could do, was sit in the dirt, and scrape his sores. That was his act of worship, proving Satan a liar. He did not lose faith.

    So, next time you are being hard on yourself for circumstances beyond your control....remember the account of Job.

    So we can, in spite of our circumstances, still give a reply even if we are just breathing and praying to Jehovah to get through the next minute. Whether it is physical or mental distress. We can be likened to Job, only able to scrape his sores and praying to get through this trial, yet we are still doing what Jehovah has asked us to do.

    Give him a reply to Satan. (prove the devil a liar by staying faithful and loyal)

    I was going to write a long explanation of why Job's wife was not faithful or loyal in fact,
    she was doing Satan's bidding, but I decided not to because you don't listen to me anyway.
    Instead I'm going to list 4 verses from Job and let you figure it out for yourself.
    This circuit overseer, whoever he is, is an idiot.

    Chapter 2: 4
    But Satan answered Jehovah and said : 'skin in behalf of skin, and everything a man has he will give in behalf of
    his soul' 5 For a change, thrust out your hand please, and touch as far as his bone and flesh and see whether he
    will not curse you to your very face.

    Chapter 2: 9
    Finally his wife said to him 'are you yet holding fast your integrity? curse God and die!'
    10 But he said to her : As one of the senseless women speaks you speak also. Shall we
    accept merely what is good from the true God and not accept also what is bad?'
    In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

  • changeling
    changeling

    Aprostate???? LOL

    changeling

  • moomanchu
  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    Aprostate???? LOL I think it was just a typo, made me laugh though.

    just got another junk mail this very minute aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Spiritual Motivation: 'Isn't It Strange'

    Isn't it strange how a $100.00 dollar bill seems like such a large amount when you put it in the contribution box, but such a small amount when you go shopping?

    Isn't it strange how 2 hours seem so long when you're at the meeting, and how short they seem when you're watching a good movie?
    Isn't it strange that you can't find a word to say when you're praying, but you have no trouble thinking what to talk about with a friend?
    Isn't it strange how difficult it is to read one chapter of the Bible, but how easy it is to read 100 pages of a popular n ovel?

    Isn't it strange how everyone wants front-row-tickets to concerts or games, but they do whatever is possible to sit in the back at meetings?

    Isn't it strange how we need to know about an event or special field service day for the congregation 2-3 weeks before the day so we can include it in our agenda, but we can adjust our agenda for other events in the last minute?
    Isn't it strange how difficult it is to learn a fact about Jehovah God to share it with others, but how easy it is to learn, understand, extend and repeat gossip?
    Isn't it strange how we believe everything that magazines and Newspapers say but we sometimes question the words in the Bible?
    Isn't it strange how everyone can't wait for Paradise, but they don't want to put in much effort to get there?
    Isn't it strange how we send jokes in e-mails and they are forwarded Right away, but when we are going to send messages about Jehovah, we think about it twice, and only select some in our friend list to share it with?

    -- Author Unknown

  • nomoreguilt
    nomoreguilt

    MOOMANCHU.....Good point as "what is bad from the true god..."

    I thought only good came from a loving, father like, god.

    NMG

  • mavie
    mavie

    LOL!

    Isn't it strange that time flies when you are having fun?

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    Thanks Moo for both!

    Spiritual Masturbation: 'It's not strange at all'

    It's not strange at all how a $100.00 dollar bill can buy your kids shoes or you everlating salvation in a high control group.

    It's not strange at all how 2 hours seem so long when you're at a mind-killing meeting that offers no intellectual, spiritual or emotional value.
    It's not strange at all that you can't find a word to say when you're praying when the only thing you've been told about God is His incessant demands that you go out in field service.
    It's not strange at all how difficult it is to read one chapter of the Bible, considering its contradictions and condemnations of long-dead peoples - for God's sake, at least get one of those vernacular editions!
    It's not strange at all how everyone wants front-row-tickets to events that are engaging and provide value, but they do whatever is possible to sit in the back at meetings where you might be forced to repeat inane claptrap that few could possibly believe.
    It's not strange at all how we appreciate knowing about long, emotionally and physically draining events (like special field service day) 2-3 weeks before the day so we can psych ourselves into it, but we can adjust our agenda for acts of kindness or simple pleasures with people that really care about us.
    It's not strange at all how difficult it is to learn anything about Jehovah God from the WTS that doesn't rely on gossip, innuendo or faulty logic.
    It's not strange at all how we believe what we can see in words and pictures in magazines, newspapers and the Internet but sometimes question a Bible that was written over many years, put together by a conference of men with an Agenda, and then used to castigate us for being human.
    It's not strange at all how everyone can't wait for Paradise but don't believe the rules and regulations of a failed prophet on how to get there.
    It's not strange at all how we brighten peoples' lives by sending jokes in e-mails but are cautious about infecting our friends with suspect edicts from the WTS.

    -- VoidEater

  • MeneMene
    MeneMene

    You might want to send your father this link - http://www.scborromeo.org/wisdom/strange.htm

    It is from St Charles Borromeo Catholic Church - Words of Wisdom - Isn't It Strange?

  • willyloman
    willyloman

    voideater: brilliant spoof!

  • Evidently
    Evidently

    You might want to send your father this link - http://www.scborromeo.org/wisdom/strange.htm

    It is from St Charles Borromeo Catholic Church - Words of Wisdom - Isn't It Strange?

    Owned........

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