How can we be sure Jehovah is using the WTS?

by Doug Mason 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Doug Mason

  On pages 638 and 639 of its October 15 1954 Watchtower, the organization answered the following question:

  How does Jehovah’s spirit help the “faithful and discreet slave” arrive at the truth of a matter? The Society does not claim infallibility or inspiration. How much is dependent upon the written Word? How can we be sure that this is the organization Jehovah is using when some things are published and later changed?

  A 296.43 kB scan of their answer is provided at:

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=30aec25f20d96aa5ac9e076e2f4f57de

  I have also provided pages 81 – 84 of Alan Rogerson’s 1969 book, “Millions now living will never die: A study of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, since he makes comments that are pertinent to the above 1954 answer from the WTS.

  A 467.56 kB scan of Rogerson’s pages are available at:

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=663eb8c883cd5de672085c037e5c9819

  Doug
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  Alligator Wisdom

  (Matthew 7:15-20) 1

  15 “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17 Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 18 a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men].

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Atlantis

  Doug Mason:

  Thank you doug! Appreciate these!

  N.
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  SirNose586

  Great scan, Doug!
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  freeme

  the article basically says "were all wrong on everything but were the only ones preaching it everywhere and everyone who has other ideas does not create a society more successful as we. so we have the truth! ah, and we always change our doctrine when someone tells us that something is wrong with it."

  thats the main critic you hear when you say the WTS is not from god today: "you say the WTS is wrong, so wheres your society with millions of ppl preaching your ideas? oh, you dont have one? too bad!" i wonder whether thats why russel started it?!
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  BluesBrother

  Thi is classic doublespeak, worthy of Orwell himself - When we are wrong its a good thing, it fulfills prophecy that we would be wrong some times, so it proves that we are right

  * w54 10/15 p. 638 Questions From Readers ** *

  Even the erroneous viewpoints held by Jehovah’s witnesses during the first world war served their purpose in contributing to the fulfillment of prophecy, for Jehovah had long ago foretold a condition of spiritual uncleanness upon his people at that particular time and the cleansing work that would be done. Hence such things are to be expected according to prophecy and their occurrence is a confirmation that this is Jehovah’s organization, rather than a cause for raising question concerning Jehovah’s use of the organization.
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  Honesty

  I call it all a pile of smelly BS
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  NewYork44M

  You can be sure only if you are a firm believer in circular reasoning.
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  coffee_black

  I had a 3 hour meeting with the elders before I DAed. I asked them this very question. One of them looked at me blankly...stood up...and said "You'll just have to take my word for it."

  I said "I'm afraid I can't do that. You see, when I stand before my creator, I'll have to answer for myself... I can't give that responsibility away... or hide behind you. I am responsible for what I believe...and especially what I teach others." He didn't say a word...just sat back down.

  Coffee
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  kurtbethel

  There is one simple test, found in Deuteronomy Chapter 18:

  But the prophet, that shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

  And if thou say in thy heart, How shall we know the word which Jehovah hath not spoken?

  when a prophet speaketh in the name of Jehovah, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which Jehovah hath not spoken: the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously, thou shalt not be afraid of him.