Is the "stump" related to Babylon the Great?

by DJPoetech 25 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    oompa dear...

    I've been following your "saga"...and I think you are your own worst enemy...

    If you don't stand for something ...you stand for nothing!

    love michelle

  • oompa
    oompa
    myelaine:

    oompa dear...

    I've been following your "saga"...and I think you are your own worst enemy...

    If you don't stand for something ...you stand for nothing!

    love michelle

    Exactly what do you mean Elaine? My saga is just that I am depressed a lot, hate the wake up, and drink too much! I can't help what my stump did in years past! What do you or I have to "stand for".......love back at you michelle!.................oompa

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear oompa...

    I can relate to your state of "being".(for different reasons, as yours are JW related). Guess what the first thing that had to go was?... the drink. it was a depressant to me. It was a distructive "diversion" to me and created nothing in my life worth "making a stand for". I ask you, has drink, in any way made your life easier to bear? even, does your spirit feel in any way more elated at the "prospects"? or do you feel more "alienated" from the situation?...you could withdraw into the problem, is all I'm saying...

    could you be the "head of the house", right now, if you had to be? Stand up for who you are, oompa.

    love Abigail.

  • oompa
    oompa

    Wow Abigail!....so you used to drink. I seem to not be able to get enough lately........it is pathetic......my wife and kids (20 and 22) can have no respect for me. I am drinking more and more every afternoon and evening.....it fixes nothing....probably negates any good from my psych meds.....yet I cant seem to even want to stop.....It is my only escape......and I feel I need to......I can move to costa rica or do the final act.........which I cant do............but either way it hurts a lot of people..........................oompa

    so how did you stop?

  • tula
    tula

    Back to the topic...(and I wish some of you would take the petty bickering somewhere else )

    DP...I think there must be some symbolism in this. Whether or not it relates to the "stump of Babylonian influences" I can only suspect.

    They are symbols of membership in one of the secret societies. These secret societies are also very cultish, like like JWs. There is a hierachy of cults from illumaniti at the top (political powers), various masonic groups (which control industry), and all world religions, not just JWs, also spring from this cult influence. "The whole world is in its power". I endeavor in my posts now to expose as much of this as I can.

    Example of a treestone from Fairmount Cemetery, Denver, Colorado

    Treestones are basically grave markers in the shape of a tree. Often they will look like tree stumps or logs. Some will have branches. They are usually associated with the Woodmen of the World, and their various associated groups, although using tree-shaped grave markers pre-dates the organization. The treestones of Woodmen will usually include their symbols, and they might be inscribed with “Dum Tacet Clamet” (”though silent he speaks”), or “here rests a Woodman of the World.” Trees, branches and leaves are common symbols of nature in cemeteries.

    According to Douglas Keister’s Stories in Stone, treestones were derived from the Victorian rusticity movement, and at one time could be ordered from the Sears and Roebuck catalog.

    Photos: (top) the tombstone of Alfred J. Day, Jr. (1892-1908), Fairmount Cemetery, Denver, Colorado; (bottom) the grave marker of Louis S. Samuels (1886-1905), Rose Hill Cemetery, Commerce City, Colorado

    History of Woodmen of the World

    The organization was founded in 1890 in Omaha, Nebraska by Joseph Cullen Root. Root, who was member of several fraternal organizations including theFreemasons, founded Modern Woodmen of America in Lyons, Iowa after hearing a sermon about "pioneer woodmen clearing away the forest to provide for their families."

    you can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodmen_of_the_World

    As you can see, this society also came about from the FREEMASONS.

    "Masons" refers to builders. It is thought that this group took its name as those who "rejected the cornerstone". (Mark 12:10 is one reference)

    10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:

    See more stump grave markers here: http://www.galenfrysinger.com/stump_grave_markers_illinois.htm

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    (Is this a grren handshake? Or a secret handshake? I am sure the symbolism means something!)

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    I don't think these symbols are innocent imagery. There is something else to this.

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    The mallet and axe are also masonic symbols. You can find more info on cult symbols and masonic influence in WTS at this link:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/152298/1.ashx

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  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear tula...

    "Back to the topic...(and I wish some of you would take the petty bickering somewhere else )"...

    well excuse me...John 21:16.

    love michelle

    p.s. I'm sure that you don't even realize that you are "tickling" some ears here. Meanwhile others may wonder off in study of this "unwholesome" stuff you are "feeding" them. That would make Jesus sad wouldn't it?

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