Cong = Sister work in Cigarettes section of supermarket/ Nurse give blood??

by Witness 007 17 Replies latest jw experiences

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208
    letting your bible study smoke in front of you was like letting them commit fornication in front of you

    Yeah but what if your study was hot and you would much rather watch them fornicate than smoke. If they didn't want to stop smoking could you come up with some kind of deal and instead of watching them smoke they could just fornicate in front of you for a bit?

    I don't understand why it's a conscience matter to sell cigs or push blood but not to be a cop? Couldn't I just choose NOT to shoot the punk if it ever came up? Or maybe just shoot him in the knee?

    The fact is that this is a "pick and choose" religion. Like celebrating anniversaries and wearing wedding bands but not birthdays... Whatever... It's not about belief and right and wrong it's about CONTROL!

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    The latest I have heard is that it is OK to stock tobacco products, lottery machines, or holiday items as long as it is "sidework" and not main work. Cashiers that have to keep the lottery machines or the cigarettes stocked, or that have to handle those products, are just doing what someone else told them to. If, however, you owned a store, you cannot sell tobacco or lottery machines or have holiday merchandise or decorations.

    All of which is hogwash. I personally think it is very stupid for anyone to start smoking, and would not do anything that would promote it to anyone that cannot think for themselves (if anyone can think independently, they will see that the cost of smoking usually to always exceeds whatever benefits). However, carrying tobacco products is purely a business decision (how they are promoted is a different matter). If someone smokes and cannot get cigarettes at your store, they will just go somewhere else. The same for lottery tickets (again, I would not promote them to people that cannot gamble within or below their means).

    Decorating a Christmas tree is likely to land one in hot water with the witlesses. They keep changing the official view on that, confusing the hounders who might have a zero tolerance for such activity when it is unclear. My viewpoint is, if that is sidework and someone else is delegating that task to you, you are acting in a bicameral manner and therefore not responsible for it. If you are the owner, or volitionally take on such project, then you are responsible. Not that it is a bad thing--nor will the witless hounders uphold that viewpoint.

    I personally would go ahead and decorate the Christmas tree. I put up my first tree in 20 years this past season, and tips I have found online can make decorating it much more fun. As for finding cigarettes, if you are handling them day in and day out, you get familiar with where they are whether or not you support smoking.

  • R.F.
    R.F.

    My dad, on a couple of occasions, put in bids for contracted work for churches, and his conscience sure wasn't bothered when he did the work.

  • lawrence
    lawrence

    Hypocrisy is pretense to being what one really is not, especially the pretense of being a better person than one really is. The word is a Greek word originally meaning "to give an answer." A hypocrite in classical Greek could be an interpreter of dreams, an orator, a reciter of poetry, or an actor. Originally a neutral term, "hypocrite" gained the negative connotation of pretense, or insincerity.

    Hypocrites Are Pious in Public.

  • Bumble Bee
    Bumble Bee
    If, however, you owned a store, you cannot sell tobacco or lottery machines or have holiday merchandise or decorations.

    Yep, heard this too. There was an "elder" and when he was downsized from his job, looked into purchasing a Tim Hortons franchise. At the time they sold cakes and people would ask to have them decorated with "Happy Birthday" etc. He didn't buy the franchise because of that. A few years later, they phased that part of the business out, and he missed out on a big cash cow!

    BB

  • Mary
    Mary
    Now as a Pioneer/Servant I was taught that Smoking and fornication are both disfellowshiping offences, very serious...so how can she be pimping out smokes!!

    Of course, the real question should be: how the hell does one justify DFing Christians who might sell tobacco products in their store, while Crooklyn profits from shares in Phillip Morris?

    That'd be like the Catholics excommunicating someone for dispensing various forms of birth control at a store, while profiting from shares in a condom factory.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    At Pioneer school they told us that letting your bible study smoke in front of you was like letting them commit fornication in front of you...so ask your study not to smoke while studying

    Oh yes that is how they "netted" me. I was a chain smoker ! And the girl that studied with me. said it bothered her conscience to see me use the "weeds" that Jah had kicked Adam & Eve out of the Garden into ....So begged me to not do it in front of her... And "peasize" mouthy,not wanting to offend her STOPPED smoking !!!!( cos I liked the girl)

    It took me two years to pack it up. But I am so happy today I did.... they were .40 cents a pack back then.... look at the money i saved... ( after 25 years of "hard labour" working for the borg.) at least I HAVE something out of it ...even if they do have my kids & grand kid.

  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller

    This reminded me of the request from my witness associate to lie on his behalf to a bank. Twisted logic to say well, I didn't lie-you did.

    Serves him right! The bank caught the deceit and denied his request.

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