FRAUDULENT door to door premise from the "Catholic" Governing Body

by Terry 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry
    Terry

    According to the Organization with its Governing Body pronouncements of "Truth", the bible was written for and directed to the chosen elite with the heavenly hope and not to the rank and file "other sheep."

    If this were truly so, would that not mean the admonitions to preach the Good News of the Kingdom would, logically, be directed soley to the chosen elite and not to the the rank and file as well?

    If the Governing Body possesses that magically spirit-directed message of Truth--and they ONLY--it would be irresponsible for non-anointed to take upon themselves work given to the chosen few, would it not?

    It seems to me the Door to Door ministry should only be handled by the anointed by the logic of the above premise.

    After all, think about this. According to the Watchtower "wisdom", the reaction of the listener to the message received in the preaching work (door to door) is the determining factor of LIFE or DEATH for that householder. Would it not behoove the anointed to make certain the message isn't poorly handled, ineptly delivered, amateurishly presented and ultimately bungled?

    Think of it like this. If there is a medical emergency you want to send it emergency medical help that is rigorously qualified to administer state-of-the-art life-saving intervention to prevent unnecessary death---right? You don't send in 1st year Med Students or hobbyists, right?

    Why? Because, the patient would suffer as a result.

    Analogously, the householder hearing the Jehovah's Witness "Truth" presentation should get it from the elite corp of specially selected persons whom Jehovah has appointed as Judges, Kings and Priests.

    To leave Door to Door work in the hands of second-hand sheep who don't qualify to rule with Jesus and who don't deserve heavenly hope is tantamount to delivering inept emergency care to the sick and dying.

    Isn't this malfeasance of the highest order?

    The Watchtower Society should be ashamed to turn over its quintessential purpose and work to the dogs who yap at the table for crumbs: the earthly hope second-handers who don't merit heaven.

    At least, the above is how it really stacks up if you look at it without the Watchtower spin attached.

    Getting others to do your work for you is manipulative in the first place and sanctimoniously illicit if you are the chosen one whose "chosen" status depends on how you discharge that responsibility.

    Remember, historically, the Catholic Church made up rules and the lay person had to follow them. The lay person could not read their own bible and decide what was True. It was the Catholic hierarchy who interpreted on matters of faith and morals and not the sole christian with an open heart in prayer to God.

    Martin Luther came up with the new idea of Sola Scriptura: one christian, one bible, prayer to God and the Holy Spirit giving the Truth directly in the name of Jesus.

    The Watctower has gone back to the Catholic way of doing things. Only the Governing Body can tell us what the bible really means and we must do as they determine. Reading your bible cannot reveal or open up anything that the GB hasn't first approved.

    Russell, Rutherford and all those who followed merely went back to the Catholic method of doing things.

    The doctrine of Faithful and Discreet Slave is nothing less than the Catholic doctrine of Majesterium. Hierarchy is in charge of the Kingdom Hall, preaching work and interpretations of faith and morals. What THEY say is what is viewed as Truth. No one else can go to Jehovah in prayer and see anything worth seeing.

    This goes a long way toward explaining why Jehovah's Witnesses never see themselves as PROTESTANTS! They never left the Catholic way of doing things!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLgpPZmz0NE&feature=related
  • Xavier1
    Xavier1

    Thank you for your interesting post and good reflection.

    Xavier

  • FreedomFrog
    FreedomFrog

    Wow, what an interesting and deep post. I had never even thought about this before but you're right, the bible wasn't permitted to be read by the "lower class" back then. If memory serves me right, wasn't the "elite" basically college professors or the equivalent? Adding to them telling their (lower) people to go from door to door but discouraging college is a bit of paradox in itself.

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Great post Terry.

    The doctrine of Faithful and Discreet Slave is nothing less than the Catholic doctrine of Majesterium.

    I'm going to give some serious thought to how I can work that comparison in with my JW family.

    As for the "unqualified" R&F doing the preaching, the dubs will have plenty of retorts for that one I'm afraid. Jesus followers were "unlettered and ordinary" is the first one that springs to mind.

    Here's one that I have yet to use, but have it tucked away waiting for the right time.

    Per the WT, EVERY rank & file JW must "make disciples" based on Mt 28:19, 20. How many times have you heard something like "It's a direct command from Christ Jesus. We must obey it." Then using the same verses, why doesn't EVERY rank & file JW have to also "baptise"? Is that not also a "direct command from Jesus"?

    OM

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    would that not mean the admonitions to preach the Good News of the Kingdom would, logically, be directed soley to the chosen elite and not to the the rank and file as well?

    I have been party to discussions on this topic for more than 20 years. DID YOU KNOW:

    Official doctrine is that ONLY the 144,000 are commanded to preach. The Great Crowd is "iinvited to participate".

    My dad's reinstatement was around this very issue. Every few months someone scolds him, a new CO or DO threatens him, a new elder berates him, and each time that person has had to apologize when they get word back from a higher authority that the Great Crowd is NOT commanded to preach.

    How's that for a little dark secret of the krazy kult?

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    voideater:

    the Great Crowd is NOT commanded to preach.

    Do you have any WT references for this?

    I'm not doubting you, I'd just like to be able to support it.

    This factoid, (I'm assuming you're right) doesn't get your Dad out of preaching though does it?

    His life (assuming he's not one of 144,000 flyers) depends on how he treats Christ's "brothers". And if the "brothers" invite you to participate, well then, you'd better participate.

    OM

  • Homerovah the Almighty
    Homerovah the Almighty

    Interesting post Terry, its difficult to find true honesty and integrity in the majority of these religious organizations, once examining them.

    They all seemed to be fraudulently constructed on a premise of power and money, with the JWS having a more commercial flavor attached to it.

    Does this mean the once President of the WTS. the crooked lawyer Joesph Rutherford, the whiskery drinking, Cadillac driving big shot, who lived in

    a luxury mansion bought by the proceeds of the organization, was not really of the faithfully anointed.

    But he looked over and wrote most of the literature during his tenured as the President...........What a Revelation indeed

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    United In Worship-1983-p.111 "Special attention was being given to making up the government that would rule mankind for 1,000 years, and nearly all the inspired letters in the Christian Greek Scriptures are primarily directed to this group of Kingdom heirs--"the holy ones," "partakers of the heavenly calling."

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    Hey there Open:

    I'll see if I can get a copy of one of the letters - though I'm not sure the letters my dad has received are as complete as the letter his current BOE got from the WTS.

    Dad does not have to preach. Back in November, I believe, the last "attack" came from a newly appointed elder who told my dad "You cannot call yourself one of Jehovah's Witnesses if you are not out in the field service". My dad was offended and stopped attending meetings. If took a couple weeks but eventually the DO privately reproved the new elder, who then phoned another elder to have his apology to my dad indirectly delivered.

    My dad was initially told decades ago that he disassociated himself when, after a couple years of writing to the WTS and asking "who is commanded to preach", he wrote a letter that said, "Since I do not feel I am commanded to preach [only the 144,000 are], I don't know if I can call myself one of Jehovah's Witnesses." Based on that, the local elders told him he had disassociated himself.

    Eventually, as the "class" that Jesus was speaking to was more clearly defined, and after my dad moved to a new congregation, the new BOE started correspondance again with the WTS. My dad was reinstated when someone, somewhere, finally admitted that if the FDS is the only class that has a direct relationship with Christ and is the only group that Christ was directly addressing, then it is only the FDS that is actually commanded to preach.

    However, knowing that this great work is important to God, and knowing that the FDS needs all the help it can get, wouldn't the Great Flock surely WANT to participate?

    My dad's answer: No, I don't. I don't enjoy it, it's not required, I decline.

    I'll see what correspondance I might be able get a copy of - I'm pretty sure I have actually read the argument about the Great Flock's whole-hearted passion to help, based on the invitation to participate with the FDS in a Watchtower, but that I may have dreamed...I don't have bound volumes or WT on CD...

    Cheers -ve

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    I once had a circuit overseer named George Cook whom many on this board are familiar with.

    One of his pet phrases was "You aren't a Witness if you don't witness." That implied that every one in the congregation was required to go preaching. And as a circuit overseer, he was representing the Society.

    In all my years I never heard that the command to preach applied only to the "anointed remnant", and I never made the connection. I guess that's indicative of the way the WTS leaders like to pull the wool over the eyes of their followers.

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