Atlantis (and others that provide scanned materials): Thank you so much for the work you do. I know it's boring to scan page after page, but we appreciate it.
"bite me": I'm kind of new at this, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. After I bring up a point I learned from one of the transcripts, sometimes I am asked where the info came from. I tell them the truth: I was researching old cases involving the Society and came across a couple of cases that I had not previously heard about. The organization talks up its legal history, so it should not be odd for a witness to research that history using publicly available resources (such as reporters and court records).
I also enjoy looking at old publications on Google books. Do yourself a favor and check out The Finished Mystery. It includes a verse-by-verse discussion of Revelation--just like the Climax book we're currently studying in the Congregation Book Study. As you read the amazing "truths" contained therein, remember that this is the "food at the proper time" that the Faithful Slave was giving when Jesus supposedly came to inspect them in 1918.
Here's one especially entertaining example from The Finished Mystery. On page 230, we learn that the 1600 furlongs mentioned in Rev. 14:20 refers to the distance from Scranton, Pennsylvania to Brooklyn, NY. I kid you not!
Transcript of U.S. v. Rutherford, et al.?
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Olin Moyles Ghost
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SirNose586
http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Documents_libres_de_droit
Clicky.
Thanks for the link, Chasson! Court transcripts rule.
And of course, we are all indebted to Atlantis for his tireless SAUNA work! (Scanning and Archiving by the Underground Ninja Apostate)
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AlphaOmega
The Watchtower NEVER mentions the Olin Moyle case....becaue it LOST it!
Not exactly mentioned in a positive light, but it is still a mention - sadly the quotes aren't on the Watchtower CD, but I do have the Watchtower refenences. Old lighthouse Books have the 1944 Consolation mentioned, but it is in a batch.
***dx30-85Moyle,OlinR.***
MOYLE,OLINR.
g44 12/20 21; g43 6/23 27-8; w41 285-6; w39 258, 316-17, 382
W41 285-286
This same day a sharp judgment of the great Lawgiver against the "evil servant" class (Matt. 24:48-51) was expressed at the beginning of the afternoon’s sessions. An ex-army officer of the United States appeared on the platform and asked and was granted the privilege to present a Resolution concerning one Moyle.
Said lawyer proved unfaithful to his position of trust m the Lord’s organization, slandered and abused the Bethel family at Brooklyn, quit his post of duty, and thereafter sued the Society and its board of directors and others for $100,000 for libel because the facts were published in The Watchtower for the protection of Jehovah’s witnesses throughout the land.
The Resolution condemned such course of action and such recourse to worldly courts as unscriptural, unwarranted and unjustified. Put to a vote, the resolution was adopted with a unanimous "Aye" by the vast assembly of more than 75,000. Thereafter copies of the Resolution were given free to all, to take home with them.
Prior to that, Moyle gets a mention...
Watchtower 1939
258
FOR YOUR INFORMATION
By reason of his unfaithfulness to the kingdom interests, and to those who serve the kingdom, 0. R. Moyle is no longer wth the Society. The full board of directors of the Society on August 8, by resolution, unanimously demanded that the president sever Moyle's connection with the Society Immediately. It was done. Bretheren will address their communications concerning their legal difficulties : WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY, Legal Desk, 117 Adams St, Brooklyn, N. Y.I will post the other references to Moyle later on.
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chasson
Here is the consolation where the moyle trial is mentionned:
http://cchasson.free.fr/deposit/consolation/Consolation%20December%2020,%201944.pdf
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cognac
Wow, what did Moyle do at the society?
Was he a lawyer?
Did he get the whole 100k?
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VM44
Moyle was a lawyer, and I don't think he got the 100K.
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cabasilas
AO, thanks for the list of occurrences of Moyle's name in WT literature. I've seen most of those, but I don't think I've ever seen:
g43 6/23 27-8
Anyone know what that contained?
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Nathan Natas
For Cognac, and anyone else who is interested:
Olin Moyle was an attorney from Wisconsin who had been one of Jehovah’s witnesses since about the year 1910. In 1935 Olin Moyle sold his home and belongings and moved with his wife and adult son from Wisconsin to Bethel in Brooklyn. Mr. Moyle worked with the Watchtower’s legal department, Phoebe Moyle worked as a chambermaid in the Bethel home, and their son Peter worked in the cafeteria and later as a linotype operator.
In 1939, after living at bethel for four years, Olin Moyle wrote a letter to J. F. Rutherford, president of the Watchtower, to complain about some of the inappropriately excessive behavior he had witnessed by some members of the Bethel family and from Rutherford himself. Rutherford retaliated with public denunciations of Olin Moyle and his family, and in 1940 Olin Moyle sued for libel. The case was heard in 1943 (after Rutherford’s death) and Olin Moyle won. The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society was ordered to pay a total of $30,000 to Olin Moyle.
-- from "Who was W.E. Van Amburgh?" (addendum to the replica reprint of THE WAY TO PARADISE, available from Lulu.com)
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AlphaOmega
Here is the consolation where the moyle trial is mentionned:
http://cchasson.free.fr/deposit/consolation/Consolation%20December%2020,%201944.pdf
Bye
CharlesTHANK YOU
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AlphaOmega
AO, thanks for the list of occurrences of Moyle's name in WT literature. I've seen most of those, but I don't think I've ever seen:
g43 6/23 27-8
Anyone know what that contained?
No idea, and I can't find a copy for sale on the internet either.