Hillary Clinton

by free2beme 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    I can understand her frustration - she has been groomed for this from the early 90s. Ity will be difficult for her to run again - not impossible but difficult. If Obama wins the nomination but loses the presidency she has a shot in 2012. If Obama wins the nomination and the Presidency she would not realisically get a shot until 2016 - and even then she would have to run against teh incumbent VP one assumes. However Obama could pick her as VP running mate - but could she accept.? I think it would be too humiliating for her even though VP is a very high office.

    So what i am trying to say is - realistically she has to win this time.

    Howeven Obama has time on his side. He is very young. If Hillary picked him as running mate he could be VP for 8 years gain loads of experience and stil lrun for President after a two Hilary term

  • Homerovah the Almighty
    Homerovah the Almighty

    However Obama has time on his side. He is very young. If Hillary picked him as running mate he could be VP for 8 years gain loads of experience and still run for President after a two Hilary term

    Thats a good thought stilla. but I'm afraid the voting public doesn't see things that way, perhaps maybe the voters are still not mentally prepared to have a woman as the President

    of the United states ?

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    Personally I hope Obama does not ask her, I think it would hurt his chance. Also, it is going to be hard enough for a black man or a woman to be elected, put them together and the odds do not improve.

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    I wonder if Obama will be able to be a two-term president. If he is elected, I have my doubts that he actually intends to do most of the things of which he promises. Economically, he can not end the war on Iraq on day one, and I am sure his handlers are aware of this. If anything he will do something like Hillary's plan.

    My point of concern is the unrealistic expectation of change he engenders. When it doesn't materialize, I fear the backlash will be equally enormous.

    Again, I agree with Homerovah. The US is NOT ready for a female president; however, Hillary has earned her place in the history books, and her campaign paves the path for a female in the next 10-15 years.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24
    would vote race, and that white men would side with a male candidate of ANY color over a female candidate. I said that white women would not be enough to get Hillary the presidency. Additionally, I opined, and he agreed with me on this point, that American wiould respond to an "orator." It's McDonald's politics: quick, easy and empty. However, he vehemently

    I agree JT - that's the way that I see it swinging. Most appear to want a man, any man in office, rather than a woman - regardless of her experience or knowledge from what I have seen.

    As for the Huckabee fair tax issue - if any one single official were interested in really solving the deficit that the Republicans have created in this country, they need only start with some basic changes. Tax the top, who are paying somewhere around 15% interest on their investment income, at the same rate as any other earner and you immediately bring in billions of dollars in revenue. Statisticians have already shown that by removing the limits on social security payments to the government - instead of stopping those payments once you hit $200,000 and instead keep paying - there would be enough money and more in the fund for years to come. Next - make both social security and medicare accountable to independent oversight and end any government ability to withdraw those funds unless there is a referendum on the matter. Then - put tarrifs back on your imported goods. Corporations that move jobs elsewhere for cheap labour and then sell those goods back in the USA, should be forced to pay high tarrifs to get the product back in. If the USA consumer base is still good enough, it forces those companies to rethink their strategy of working overseas if they have to pay 30% to get the stuff back in the USA to sell - more cost effective to set up shop inside the country. Next - as Michigan itself has made public - the cost of health care is shutting down competition. Canada is right over the border and it is cheaper to make cars there because they have provincial paid health care and a good wage that is still less than the same wage and employer paid benefits in the USA. Remove the billions of subsidies that are paid to the oil companies, the mega farmers and every other gazillion dollar profit company and instead, spread those resources to the smaller farms, the organics, the green technology - in other words small business which then might be able to stimulate the economy and provide jobs.

    sammieswfe.

  • gabriella
    gabriella

    Buffalosrfree-

    Where is your compassion? Healthcare is a human right and many other countries do provide it. It is immoral to not provide care for our elderly and our children who dearly need it. If it keeps going up 30% a year, eventually only the elite will be able to access it and that is abusive. If a socialist society does take care of it's citizens, then maybe socialized medicine wouldn't be a bad way to go.

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