New Light - ?

by ocsrf 17 Replies latest jw friends

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  ocsrf

  January 15, 2008 Watchtower, page 23 paragraph 16

  It seems, however, that not all who have been called to a heavenly hope since the 1930's are replacements for ones who have fallen away. Jehovah has evidently made sure that we will have anointed Christians amoung us all through the final days of this system of things until the destruction of "Babylon the Great." (Rev. 17:5) And we can be confident that the full number of 144,000 members will be completed in Jehovah's due time and that all will eventually take their place in the Kingdom government. We can also believe the prophetic Word that the ever-growing great crowd will as a group continue to prove itself faithful. Soon it will "come out of the great tribulation" brought upon Satan's world and will joyfully move on into God's new world.

  My thoughts on this:

  1. The Society has mentioned that all the 144,000 were selected by 1935 and those annointed afterwards would be replacements of those who were unfaithful - this has been mentioned in many many publications, so why the change and why have they only devoted two sentences to this change? They are not treating this like new light.

  2. This change is like a credit card with no lending limit, as long as the Society is operating and the new system has not yet come, there will always be someone who is of the annointed. This information should be put into the same file folder as the change about 1914 not being a defined generation.

  I am sure they have had many direct questions about the current new members of the governing body. If someone was 35 in 1935, he would be 108 years old, it is hard to believe that someone that old could do anything so wrong as to be considered unfaithful...LOL. That is of course, if you could find anyone who was annointed prior to 1935 that is still alive. So this new light or as they put it in the paragraph "Jehovah has evidently made sure that we will have anointed Christians amoung us all through the final days of this system of things until the destruction of "Babylon the Great"

  My words are " Evidently we had it wrong for over 72 years and now we have gotten around to correcting our mistake." "Jehovah is wonderful in how he releases the right information and the right time".

  Share your feelings on these two sentences.

  OC
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  Aphrodite

  I want to send this to my JW mother, but I know it won't work. Nothing seems to make a difference, Im sure she just views me as controlled by satan now.
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  Awakened07

  It's been extensively debated here already, but I don't blame you for not knowing, 'cause I couldn't find the threads myself when I tried to search for them.

  This 'new light' is another needed change for the WTBTS because time has caught up with the previous light. It's connected to the 'new light' on the 1914 generation in that way. You are right that they now can keep on keepin' on almost indefinitely.
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  ldrnomo

  So, what ever happened to the nephinem, those supposedly appointed to help the ever ageing governing body?

  Does anyone hear of them being talked about anymore?
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  ocsrf

  Sorry if this has already been hashed out, this was new to me today, just happened to notice this at the study and it struck me funny that it was just mentioned in passing like it was no big deal.

  OC
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  ocsrf

  So, what ever happened to the nephinem, those supposedly appointed to help the ever ageing governing body?

  Does anyone hear of them being talked about anymore?

  I think I read here or somewhere else that this theory did not hold up under careful Bible interpretation, so instead of carrying another wrong teaching, I think they decided to just drop it quietly and hope no one notices. OC
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  darth frosty

  There are not strong enough curse words, for me to express how I feel about this debased vulgar BORGanization.
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  Honesty

  Does anyone wish to tell us how the Watchtower Society can maintain two conflicting doctrines at the same time?

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/153373/2804581/post.ashx#2804581

  It seems, however, that not all who have been called to a heavenly hope since the 1930's are replacements for ones who have fallen away. Jehovah has evidently made sure that we will have anointed Christians among us all through the final days of this system of things until the destruction of "Babylon the Great." (Rev. 17:5) And we can be confident that the full number of 144,000 members will be completed in Jehovah's due time and that all will eventually take their place in the Kingdom government. We can also believe the prophetic Word that the ever-growing great crowd will as a group continue to prove itself faithful. Soon it will "come out of the great tribulation" brought upon Satan's world and will joyfully move on into God's new world.

  January 15, 2008 Watchtower magazine

  Page 23 paragraph 16
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  sspo

  just happened to notice this at the study and it struck me funny that it was just mentioned in passing like it was no big deal.

  Don't be schocked about no one noticing, you can ask any of the witnesses about these doctrines or new light and i bet

  none of them will be able to tell you what the official explanation is from the watchtower.

  The society writes in such a way so that no one will notice that there is an official change of doctrines.

  The biggest change came in 1995 with the new explanation of the 1914 generation, it went over everyones head, discussed at the watchtower study and that's it.

  Publishers are like zombies listening to a voice from Brooklyn.
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  Elsewhere

  Actually, the WTS didn't say anything about the matter:

  It seems, however, that not all who have been called to a heavenly hope since the 1930's are replacements for ones who have fallen away. Jehovah has evidently made sure that we will have anointed Christians amoung us all through the final days of this system of things until the destruction of "Babylon the Great."

  "Seems" and "Evidently" are not absolute terms. They are speculative terms and carry no real weight.

  Basically the WTS was talking out of their ass and making up crap.