There is no need to eat shit just to find out whether or not it tastes bad.
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by ttw1981 24 Replies latest jw friends
There is no need to eat shit just to find out whether or not it tastes bad.
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Welcome to the board, you will find a wealth of information some good some take as you may, but I would encourage you to check out the other sites and links about jw's that many
posters have sited to help you make informed decisions and help you understand what it is really about. Its not really the people at the hall, they just follow along like sheep to the
slaughter, its really what the organization has done to the people.
My motto is to question Everything?
Hope4Others
I was raised a JW and didn't miss a memorial in 44 yrs. The last one I attended was in 2006 .
I then walked away from this religion . I had finally realized it was a cult and many of it's beliefs were man made doctrines that over shadowed Bible truth .
The thought of attending the Memorial now sickens me . To me it is a total rejection of Jesus Christ . I would much rather attend a local church and observe and partake of communion .
On a superficial level, you might want to go to see what it's like. If you are of a spiritual persuasion, you must ask yourself:
Am I a Christian, who believes the taking of the wine and bread is a part of my salvation?
If yes, what would you do when presented with the emblems of Christ's blood and flesh? If you believe this is part of your religious ritual, you might partake of them (to the horror of the Witnesses in attendance); and you might decide not to in this setting (I would wonder how this would impact your sense of your relationship with Christ).
Do I believe this is the one true religion?
If yes, by all means attend; if no, don't expose yourself to false religious ritual.
As a social function or as research, you may wish to go; but I would advise against participating in rituals that you are not yet convinced a part of true worship.
I do attend a local church and take communion there. I'm not worried so much about how I will be affected by the JW witness religion because I know that I will not be affected. I know that the teachings of the WS are strongly contrary to what I believe. I am already going through a Bible study with some local JW's in my home. I think it may reach a point where they realize that I'm not going to change my mind about my beliefs (and neither is my husband) before we reach March 22. So are you saying at a Lord's Supper at a Kingdom Hall, everyone passes the bread and 'wine' around but only people who believe they are one of the 144,000 partake? That sounds like a waste of bread and grape juice to me. I guess the really interesting thing if I did go would be that I do believe that I will be with God in Heaven or on a NEW earth one day, and I know I am forgiven of my sins and belong to His family, so I would feel completely comfortable taking communion anywhere, except I'm not sure it's REALLY communion in this case. Would my going to this observance and watching (whether I partake or not) in any way benefit these JW's or would it in fact move in the other direction so that I was pushing them further away from the REAL truth by leading them to believe I was beginning to think of converting, garnering praise for them from fellow JW's when what I want is to raise DOUBT in their minds?
I also like the recipe for communion bread. I would love to make some... I think actually it would be awesome to observe communion in my HOME with my family like Jesus did with his disciples.
I think what would happen is that I would feel like I was supposed to partake of the bread and wine because I believe it is a symbol of my salvation, but I would wonder if I should do so in that setting, and then I think it would all be quite a circus... with the JW couple I know being praised for bringing us and then scolded because we, not even being baptized as JW's, thought we had some right to partake of the food. I'm thinking maybe now we won't go? Or maybe I'll go and stay outside across the road and pray for all of them the whole time. My sister and I were friends with a local JW family (the children in that family) growing up, and I've seen first hand what the 'love' offered can do. One of our friends had to go before the entire congregation and confess her wayward sins and be mentored by a lady in the congregation if she wished to remain. She's so confused now that she doesn't know what she believes.. I feel such a burden on my heart to reach JW's, and I've felt that almost since I was saved I think, but it's a discouraging business.
Welcome ttw1981 I am a JW who doesn't go any more since I found out that they don't have the "truth". I went to the Memorial last year and had a terrible feeling come over me when the bread and wine came around and I passed it on without partaking. It was the first time I had felt that I was actually refusing Jesus'sacrifice by doing so. Before this I felt that I was doing the right thing because I was led to beieve that as I wasn't one of the 144,000 then I shouldn't have the bread and wine.
If I was you and wanted to go then I would have the bread and wine or they will think you believe that you aren't of the annointed class and confirm that they are right in their teaching IMO.
Maddie
So are you saying at a Lord's Supper at a Kingdom Hall, everyone passes the bread and 'wine' around but only people who believe they are one of the 144,000 partake?
Yes.
If you don't partake, the Witnesses will just believe you are "coming along nicely" in converting to their religion. If you do partake, someone will have a conversation with you to explain how wrong it was for you to do so - you can't possibly be of the 144,000 since you are not yet "in the Truth".
Thank you again. I think it will probably be better NOT to go but to explain to the JW's who visit us WHY we can't go - that we believe in partaking of the bread and wine, etc. and why.