by Mary 71 Replies latest jw friends
Pro of course !
The jobs I occupied with a union, I had over 20 bucks an hour, and jobs I had that were non unionized I earned less than 10 an hour. The less you're paid, the more you work too....the less vacations you get....and the more the boss steps on you.
Grocery workers should not be getting paid $15-$20 per hour for sweeping products across a laser scanner (with an attitude as poor as their government brethren).
LOL! I've worked in two government offices that were unionized. Staff were nice enough but generally were lazy as hell. One girl would take either every Monday or every other Monday off as a "sick" day. Everyone knew she wasn't sick, but there wasn't a whole hell of a lot they could do about it.
You want to know why grocery cashiers have bad attitudes? Because of bitchie, ill mannered customers.
Amen to that. I've done grocery cashier work, I've seen girls reduced to tears because they're customer had a bad day and used them as a verbal punching bag. I've had people threaten to punch my head in because they didn't check the shelf price of an item, or thought the price two shelves over would count, or they didn't want me to check their bag (which you're required to ask).
It's called 'customer service', not 'taking people's s***'.
XJW4evr,
I could not agree more. Generally, I have no problem with the trade unions(plumbers/pipefitters, electricians, carpenters, etc.) , I guess because you don't often hear of them going(or threatening to go) on strike, and they represent people that actually have some desperately needed skills in today's workforce. But outside of that, I too am virulently anti-union. Unions have outlived their purpose and now only exist to enrich a few select people i.e. the union bosses in Washington DC-- corrupt socialists like John Sweeney, Rich Trumpka, and Ron Getelfinger. Back when unions were in their heyday 50 yrs ago, there were no laws on the books to protect workers from abuses. That is no longer the case. I work in a nonunion environment and it's harder to fire someone where I work than some places that I know are unionized. Also, unions are killing what used to be great businesses in this country. One of the their biggest constituencies, the UAW, has almost singlehandedly drove the auto business into the ground, by trying to insist that the these fine companies continue to pay people that no longer work for them. Detroit is quickly becoming a wasteland and auto jobs are coming down to the nonunionized South, where the quality of life is great and nonunion auto workers still make union scale wages(25.00-30.00/hr, the last time i checked) and great benefits, without having to pay union dues and put up with the crap that you get with union representation.
I especially take issue with the poster directly ahead of me, trying to blame "bitchy customers" for his bad attitude at work. You need to be reminded that the REASON you have a job at that grocery store is THAT PAYING CUSTOMER. Businesses, whether its a grocery store or auto assembly plant, only exist because of CUSTOMERS.
It's called 'customer service', not 'taking people's s***'.
For real.
I got hired during Christmas at Meijer. It's like a super wal-mart and incredibly busy. There was more than one day that I had to go on break and just cry because several customers would chew me out for things I had no control over.
One man older man who was nicely dressed like a doctor or lawyer: his wife was paying me. I had bagged all of their groceries and had to put some up on the carousel because he wasn't putting them in the cart as the carousel would fill up. Anyway, he said to me in a very mean, sarcastic, better-than-you tone, "Well, I guess you're going to have to me on your pay roll. You'd think I'd get some help loading these groceries on my cart." I ignored him and finished the transaction. His wife looked very embarrassed. The man was very healthy and sturdy looking. He was no helpless, frail little old man.
The old crank didn't know that from the beginning of his order, to the end of the transaction, I was being timed and counted item per minute against the time it took for the order plus transaction. My results were posted along with the results of all cashiers, each week. If I got below 95%, I was taken into the office and given a written notice that I had to sign. If I received three in a three month period, I would get the ax.
There was nothing wrong with this man that he couldn't put his own groceries in his cart, or at least wait until the order and transaction were finished and I could have stepped around and placed the bags in his cart. He was too good to do such a menial task.
I especially take issue with the poster directly ahead of me, trying to blame "bitchy customers" for his bad attitude at work.
Excuse me, but I am a she and I didn't say I had a bad attitude at work. I was as nice and polite to my customers as I could be. A true professional. I win awards for my customer service. What I am saying is that when you work for ungrateful, nasty, grouchy people, it can affect your level of friendliness. At times you just give the greeting you are rquired to give and you thank them. When I worked in sales, people were much more polite to me. If you smile at me, you're going to get the red carpet service. If you bitch at me, I'll give you only what the company requires. You'll get a smile, a hello and a thank you. That's it. Just because you are buying from a store I don't own, it doesn't give you the right to be an a$$hole to me and my coworkers and expect us to kiss your a$$. Thank God I do call center work now. At least I get a fair wage for what I do and benefits that are worth the money I pay for them.
25 years International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers....pro
However...the UAW has made a laugingstock of unions ... when a giant gorilla makes wages outweigh the value of the work things go sour fast. The furlogh system and some of the other crap they asked for at GM was stupid.. and GM didnt have the b@lls to fight it....takes two to tango as they say.
Auto is the spoiled brat sister to every other union in the AFL CIO
~Hill
Non -unionized - unions have outlived their usefullness
You need to be reminded that the REASON you have a job at that grocery store is THAT PAYING CUSTOMER. Businesses, whether its a grocery store or auto assembly plant, only exist because of CUSTOMERS.
Duh. And you think I don't already know this? It still doesn't give you or anyone else the right to be jerks and expect us to bow down to you and say salami, salami, baloney.
I wouldn't say unions have outlived their usefulness, as I pointed out in my first post on this thread, this was the logic used for our workplace relations changes. A lot of people got screwed over as a result which is why the laws are going back to how they were. Employees need representation otherwise the scales are tipped too far in favour of the employer.
I'd just like to see more balance.
