Told My Mom- "Dad's Got Too Much Load on Him as a 82 Year Old Elder "

by flipper 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • crapola
    crapola

    Mr> Flipper, Just read your post about your Dad. And so sorry about your sister. Your right about so much being expected of the older ones.And there is really no appreciation shown to these ones. Oh they moght be mentioned once in a while in a prayer or something, but what they need is help. Let someone else carry the load for awhile. But no, that would be a sign of spiritual weakness!!! My nephew, also an elder has talked my 71 year old Mother into pioneering this month. Never mind the fact that she works hard cleaning houses, does all of his laundry, and feeds half the cong. I guess I'm on a roll, but it all really pisses me off. Anyway, good luck to you in getting help for your Mom & Dad.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Thanks for all your replies !

    HOPE 4 OTHERS- Thanks Hope . I do feel that like your step-dad my dad is good hearted and can't say no. It really is selfish of younger elders or the organization to expect older ones to do a lot more. Trying to dodge responsibility themselves !

    QUIETLY LEAVING- I think my dad is like your husband. He would rather die than be deprived of serving in his privileges with the society. I'll try to help him see the need to modify his load - if that's possible to get him to see it !

    TIRED of the HYPOCRISY- I understand what you are saying as I am a business owner myself who has to be involved a lot in it, and be responsible. But I agree it's good my dad wants to be active - but as you said I just want him to live the little bit of life he has left on earth without added stress !

    LISAVEGAS- It is weird that the witnesses claim to identify themselves by the love they show - however they don't really show it to each other in a practical way ! Like what you said other churches do, help get groceries, cook food, or visiting others . They truly show more love than the witnesses in doing things for people in a practical way.

    TATIANA- I agree my dad is being used. Isn't that what the WTS does to all of it's members ? Crazy. You are right though, HE has to be the one to tell them he needs to slow down. But it is true if the witnesses aren't doing anything that they can't count time on - they usually don't bother.

    JK- I agree the younger elders are along for the glory many times. I hope they do transfer the workload to them though - or my dad might keel over one day in field service or something.

    SATANUS- Exactly. The old ones can be and are replaced when they die. They should have a training program for the new elders - taught by the older elders. Of course the elders who replace the dying ones are also going to die in time as armaggeddon and the paradise are a dream anyway.

    ALYMC- It is too bad that my dad has given all those years of his life to this organization - and for what ? To not receive help now when he needs it ? Real caring bunch of people the witnesses.

    LESTARD- I know he probably is not going to slow down. Like I said he'll probably die knocking on doors in service. Then they'll bring that up at the memorial talk like it was a good thing

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    JW Loyal. Hard working. Die in the harness.

    Your Dad (and mine) wouldn't have it any other way.

    I admire their dedication. Just not what they've chosen to be dedicated to.

    OM

  • flipper
    flipper

    CRAPOLA- Thanks for the kind words. I think I would have some words with that nephew of yours if I was you putting that load on your mom like that. It sounds like she already has a hell of a load to carry - all at age 71 ! It pisses me off too - can you tell ? Anyway , good luck to you too, I'll keep working on my mom and dad as well.

    OPEN MIND- I admire your dad and my dad's hardworking and loyal ways too - just not to that organization . But they are mind controlled just as the younger witness members are too ! They don't realize it

  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc
    My nephew, also an elder has talked my 71 year old Mother into pioneering this month. Never mind the fact that she works hard cleaning houses, does all of his laundry, and feeds half the cong

    Yeah, this guy is UBER Witness #1. He had his own little meetings as a kid starting at probably 4 or 5 years old, complete with talks and all the nonsense. His meetings followed the exact format of the regular meetings, and when I would visit as a child, he would let me have "parts" on his program. All I got were #2's though, and after a while he wouldn't let me do those because I laughed my ass off all through them. The part I remember most was how pissed off he would get if there were interruptions. I bet he still acts the same way in his JC's

  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc

    FLIPPER- You can't tell crap's nephew anything that he doesn't know already. He can be such a douchebag sometimes, and yet I still feel love towards him.

  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc

    bttt

  • flipper
    flipper

    SOONER 7C- It sounds as if you grew up with this nephew of Crapola . Knew him well. Sounds like this nephew elder was really into authority as he lorded it over you ; even as a kid. I've seen kids like that and they grow up to be dangerous adults. Have you tried laughing at him as an adult while he gives talks ? LOL! Just might make him blow an O-Ring in his spiritual noggin . But you are right, he probably won't change. Maybe you and Crapola should tell him about the child abuse scandal - bet he doesn't know about that either, in spite of his authority position ! Peace Out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    Just wanted to bump this thread up to see if any had dad's who were pushed to the brink by the Watchtower society

  • flipper
    flipper

    I'm gonna be working later today into the night so I thought I would bump this topic up if anyone wanted to comment on it ! Have a good day ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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