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sacolton

“Brothers, Armageddon is so near that the ministry is incredibly urgent. We are in the last gasp of this system. Now is the time to throw off every unnecessary burden and pursue the ministry. These are the last days of the last days.”

A last gasp could be a year? Two at most?

Then you have the "We are in the death cackle of this system" - Another year .. maybe six months?

Then you have the "We are in the involuntary muscle spasms of this system" - At least six months. Gotta be.

Then you have the "We are in the rigor mortis of this system" - A month at most.

Seriously, when he said "last gasp" - I would have raised my hand and plain out asked, "How long does a last gasp last?"

Tired of the Hypocrisy

See Cognac? We are all in the same boat! You were deceived in a very methodical and deliberate manner. No shame in that! If anything, recognizing these things makes you a sharp kid!

"For I was Blind, but now I see.".............I felt wierd attending meetings and questioning everything........and looking at all the heads nodding......."YES"..........wanting so bad to kick my former self in the but.

MissingLink

Cognac - There are a few real idiots here. But you are definitly not one of them. There are loads of smart people here - a lot smarter than me when it comes to bible stuff, but they were all fooled by the WTS at one time as well. It doesn't matter how smart you are - someone will find a way to make you a sucker. Have you ever dealt with a magician first hand? I have. I thought I was very observant, I swore there was no way this guy could fool me - I was 100% on guard, but the dude had my watch in his pocket in 5 seconds. Tricking people is an art, and the people who master it can get anyone.

As for speaking your mind - the time will come. For now - can you just indulge yourself with your "inner voice" and just give a little smile knowing that you have a little secret? That's what I'm doing at the moment. When it hits the fan, then I'll speak my mind.

dawg

Yea, I was like Missing link for a long time... when this happens, I'll do this.. what that happens, I'll do that.... ad infinitum.... I knew this stuff was bull long before I spoke out. What kills me, is there shouldn't be anything you can't question as far as loved ones go, you should be able to talk to your dad.s mom's and husbands about anything you want.

I've heard many attack me for saying its cowardice to not speak out, but most of the time that's what it is... I was a coward for 18 years, so I don't hold it against anyone for not telling the truth, there's a lot at stake... but real love requires sacrifices... Do you really want to have kids with this man and then have them raised in this foolishness? Do you really want your husband to not know that you're aware of the lies being committed? Allow him to be a slave to this religion of fools?

You're my online friend, and I can tell you for a fact that you're a ticking time bomb. There's going to be something that's gonna make you break, its just a matter of time... Good luck Cognac.

oompa

Cognac, you are starting to sound more and more like me. It was eating me up..the real truth...and I was addicted to research...and nobody wanted to hear it...I would say you are very close to almost exploding if you keep hearing it in person....I would say you need to distance yourself and fast...or you could be on many, many medications soon..........................been there................oompa

darkuncle29

I think you need a major break from it all. Here are some ideas. These are only for the reduction of stress, to let you decompress a little.

Go to a Spa and get a full body massage, with other addons like aromatherapy or a mud wrap. Pamper yourself and relax.

Go see or rent your idea of the craziest funniest movie and laugh your ass off. Get two movies, but still laugh your ass off, laugh till it hurts.

Go to the gym and burn off some of that stress, maybe even take a yoga class.

Find something to do that you enjoy, that you can do 'Zen' and just be present with not thinking or emotional churning. This could be anything from cooking, art, walking, or meditation.

Amber Rose

Yep, I definitely can relate too! I had quit believing in the WTS and I thought I would be able to just continue week-in, week-out just like I had for so many years. Being bored, listening to the same old crap, barely paying attention. Then all of a sudden I couldn't NOT pay attention. I heard everything! Every word out of every person's mouth was complete nonsence! I wanted to get up and yell, tell them to listen to the words that they were saying. I didn't go to too many more meetings after that.

Vinny

They key question for you Cognac is are you willing to be patient enough to get hubby out. Do you (((love hubby enough))) to keep working on him too?

That seems to be the crux of the matter here, IMO.

If so, then just keep sending ideas, examples and critical information his way.

If you think your patience is running too thin to keep doing this song and dance then be a little more direct with him.

There is the tactical approach (like you have been doing) and then there is the more direct approach, which you may have no choice but to use now.

Remember this too; you can stop going to all meetings, you can even disassociate or be disfellowshipped; and if hubby is a true-blue JW, he cannot leave you unless you cheat on him. You are a ball and chain to him unless you mess around.

If you truly love him (as I tend to believe from what I've read), then you can still make your full stand against the organization itself. The treatment and shunning you receive just might turn the switch on in his own head. Which is exactly what happened to my wife. Had I just faded away, and not been so harshly treated afterwards, then I cannot say she would have been as affected. But she saw how I was grossly-unfairly treated, labeled, judged and shunned, simply for disagreeing with WT Society beliefs and nothing else.

That can be a powerful thing against the org.

If you have lost too much love and respect for hubby during all of this, then your journey with him (and as a JW) are probably at the end of the road.

An awful lot is riding on just how much you love your husband Cognac.

And only you can answer that!

Vinny

Ruth Eeker

Wow...I wish I had know of this site when I went through these feelings.

The Watchtower had put its thick veil over my eyes and suddenly when its lifted and you read the bible again...its like WHAT THE HELL?!?!?! I was in shock and then I'd get depressed because of what
complete crap the society was and because of the lies it was feeding to people and they just ate it up!!!

I couldn't stand to sit there at meetings..I would get really angry and upset....its was very hard.

I finally said that I wouldn't attend (for example) the Catholic church because of their false teachings...why am
sitting through a meeting listening to false teachings?

Its been 3 years since I"ve been back and it is still hard especially when surrounded by brain-washed family.

This group has helped as well as others....its shows we're not alone AND that there are caring wonderful people who are not "in the truth" and they out shine by far a lot of supposed "brothers & sisters".

I now take comfort in feeling spiritual without being at church/the hall ....reading the bible without the WT's brain washing and finding God's real truth is something I give thanks for everyday.....real truth.

That's the only thing that gets my through the angry times...knowing that I'm in "the know"!

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